patentcad

Oh, so I did.

That's what happens when you get Night of the Living Thread syndrome with these resurrected stupid BF threads.

AngryScientist 

i must say, my new calipers came pre-loaded with swiss stop pads, and i'm really digging them.

Hunt-man

Easton EA90 SLX, only a few months old. New with the bike build.

Pcad, I guess we need disc brakes. They would be real brakes?

Braden1550

Pad alignment.

They are almost universally acclaimed, so something's up.

Sixty Fiver

Happens when you get older...

patentcad

You could put atomic powered brakes on a bicycle, but as long as the tire contact patch is smaller than a dime, you're never going to be able to execute a panic stop from 30+ mph.

patentcad

Fixed.

patentcad

I can't even remember what happened a week ago. I know the Mets lost.

The Weak Link

Bike brakes are only speed modulators, you weenies. Real men ride fixies.

BTW, yesterday I replaced three year old 105 pads with the new DuraAce pads. Everything fits just fine.

Val23708

New Dura-Ace pads seem to have some heat or fade problems. They felt quite mushy on my last descent and I wasn't getting good modulation. I think I'll go back to swiss-stop or kool stop.

PaulRivers

Lol, I don't disagree with you on a technical level, but in your first post you may noticed this thread is about brake wet weather performance which your post doesn't really say anything about, ya kind went off on some dry weather braking performance rant.

Having Dura-Ace 7800 brakes and pads on my road bike, I can assure you that while you may be correct in dry weather, the size of the tire contact patch is not the limiting factor in stopping in the rain with 7800 brake pads. I would seriously say my braking distance *doubles*. Not kidding. I suppose I haven't measured it, but it's way way longer.

Yes, in dry weather I would like less topping distance and I don't have it - probably not due to the pads, just the tire contact patch.

In wet weather, there's NO REASON for braking distance to double. I know - I rode the same stretch of road with my bike with disc brakes (and 28c tires, different brand) in the rain. I didn't even *notice* the change in braking distance vs dry! (28c still didn't stop on a dime from 20mph like I'd like though ).

I suppose it's possible that it's the tire compound (some Specialized SWorks tire) or the rims somehow (some $1k Mavic wheelset), but personally from my experience I think it's the terrible wet weather performance of the brake pad.

I might get them replaced just to find out for sure...

FlashBazbo

Really? I was thinking that they were more consistent than 7800. No surprises, ever. No fade. And no sudden grabs. For me, that's a big benefit of 7900 pads. (I'm a descent coward.)

patentcad

Swisstop yellow pads you idiots.

graphs

I just got the DA 7900 pads to replace some not-yet-worn-out black Kool Stops that I haven't been loving. Will report back.

byte_speed

I got a new bike a while back with Ultegra 6700. The brake pads that came on the bike abraded my rims and picked up bits of aluminum in the pads. No amount of brushing or cleaning the pads seemed to help. I even removed the pads and picked out the bits of grit & aluminum, only to have them come right back.

I finally replaced the pads with some generic pads that seem to be working just fine. When I removed the Shimano pads, they seemed quite hard & stiff. When I looked at the back, they said "R55C for Carbon Rims".

I thought pads for carbon rims were less abrasive. Those things were eating my rims (Easton EA90 SLX) alive, and they sounded terrible whenever I stopped.

patentcad

Nobody ever listens to Uncle Pcad.

You'll see. You'll all see.

midgetmaestro 

I'm so right it's just sickening.

thegunner

yeah but no one listened the first time so he's getting hissy

mazdaspeed

Somewhat true, however just like anything else on wheels, you might as well have the best possible tires and brakes.