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Old 03-16-17, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo
But, wait--what if the person without the power meter puts out more power than the person with the power meter? Where would we stand on that?
If they don't have a power meter, check for tubular tires. If they have neither, they are not serious... Unless they have a carbon fiber bike. Then they might be. Either way, a power meter is a dead giveaway.
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Originally Posted by kbarch
When I first heard the expression "serious cyclist" years ago, it was pretty simple. It was what we called any rider we saw wearing cycling-specific kit rather than street clothes.
While that may seem superficial, and like it would allow in folks who are rather dilettantes and dabblers, it is still helpful. To commit to only the trappings of the religion may be a kind of piety without virtue, but it is an outward and visible sign of SOME kind of inward and spiritual seriousness.
Of course this doesn't mean that wearing cycling kit is necessary for a serious cyclist. What is necessary is a level of commitment that would lead the person to do something(s) in a particularly "cyclist way" that requires some sacrifice or additional significant and continuing departure from the ordinary.
Sounds about right.

On the other side;

Maybe someone who spends hours trying to decide which tires, bar tape, saddle, or socks to buy? Or someone who thinks about cycling while they are cycling?
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Originally Posted by 69chevy
If they don't have a power meter, check for tubular tires. If they have neither, they are not serious... Unless they have a carbon fiber bike. Then they might be. Either way, a power meter is a dead giveaway.

Thank you for the clarification. I'm writing all of this down and making a little cheat sheet to take with me on my next ride. It will be kind of like a little ornithological outing.
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Originally Posted by Scarbo
Thank you for the clarification. I'm writing all of this down and making a little cheat sheet to take with me on my next ride. It will be kind of like a little ornithological outing.
Just remember, there is no direct correlation between being a serious cyclist, and being fast.
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Originally Posted by Scott P
A serious cyclist doesn't wave. If you wave at a cyclist and they wave back, then you know they are just a wannabe.
Yep.
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Old 03-16-17, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Machka
Do you really think so?

How many people here do you think actually ride their bicycles on anything like a regular basis or any sort of decent distances?
I went to bed a bit after this post and asked my wife who the most serious cyclist she knows is. I dropped some old timer names. Pete/Jim Penseyres, Wayne Stetina, Thurlow Rogers, John Howard - all locals that still put in the miles. Without hesitation she said "Brandon" [McNulty]. So her view was to be serious, you needed it to be a profession.
That is not my view.

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Originally Posted by Doge
I wnet to bed a bit after this post and asked my wife who the most serious cyclist she knows is. I dropped some old timer names. Pete/Jim Penseyres, Wayne Stetina, Thurlow Rogers, John Howard - all locals that still put in the miles. Without hesitation she said "Brandon" [McNulty]. So her view was to be serious, you needed it to be a profession.
That is not my view.
Asking for the most serious isn't going to give any insight in to where she thinks the serious/why so serious? dividing lines sits. Ask her about the least serious serious cyclist that she knows.
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I'm with @Heathpack. If you don't ride a Brooks saddle, and if you don't call it a saddle, then you are not a serious cyclist. For myself, I would also require toe clips, but to each her own.
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
serious cyclistI previously attempted a serious answer to that question:

a “cyclist” has a fluid rotary pedaling motion, whereas I think “bike rider” when I see someone pedaling in a piston-like
Yea - but...
The piston like, stomp, stomp, stomp is how you go faster.
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Originally Posted by Scarbo
But, wait--what if the person without the power meter puts out more power than the person with the power meter? Where would we stand on that?
Most likely we would just call them a winner, and their parents overbearing.
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A serious cyclist must have at least one, but preferrably many, Strava KOMs.
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A serious cyclist owns at least one pair of Rapha jeans to don after the ride.
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Originally Posted by PepeM
A serious cyclist must have at least one, but preferrably many, Strava KOMs.
And haul cats.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
Anyone who cares enough about cycling to be posting here is 'serious'. Period!


I'm just here for the arguments. I actually don't even own a bike.
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Many people own bicycles but people who ride are cyclists <--- serious.

Welcome to Bike Forums where many are serious bike owners, not cyclists.
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I think it's about muscle-tone.

A serious cyclist is able to do the miles, whether long, fast, or many.
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I think we need to come up with some sort of empirical rating system for all of this. Something to consider: should we establish something like they have in golf--a handicap--for those people who are called upon to pile up their miles in the more inhospitable climes? I mean, if you live in southern California (just as an example!) it is no challenge at all to rack up those coveted "KOMs" and Strava miles.

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Originally Posted by Scarbo
I think we need to come up with some sort of empirical rating system for all of this.

Get to work. I'm serious.
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Originally Posted by jfowler85
I'm just here for the arguments. I actually don't even own a bike.
I think you are the most honorable amongst us, sir.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Get to work. I'm serious.
What do you mean?

(Boss? Is that you??? <--- inquires querulously)
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Originally Posted by Doge
Most posting here are. But how do you tell if someone else is?




For those average >4000 mi OR >300K ft of elevation per yr:


Tan lines, flat stomach, lean and fit but without significant muscle mass on the upper body....narrow shoulders (looking good in very slim Italian suit...)


It's not unusual for serious cyclists to check out or comment on each others' body shapes, eg, "you must be a good climber.." "good sprinter..."
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Originally Posted by Scarbo
I think you are the most honorable amongst us, sir.


Ummmm, I identify as xe foxkin.
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Originally Posted by PepeM
A serious cyclist must have at least one, but preferrably many, Strava KOMs.
Added to my checklist.
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Wearing a cycling hat is the dead giveaway for a serious cyclist. If no cap then not so serious.
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Originally Posted by jfowler85
Ummmm, I identify as xe foxkin.

Oops.
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