Cigarettes?
02-01-11, 02:30 PM
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02-01-11, 02:31 PM
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02-01-11, 02:31 PM
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Good for you.
I woke up one day, looked in my pack, saw three cigs in there and immediately thought "I'll need to stop at the store later".
Then a big booming voice chimed in from the back of my head with "WHY?"
That's a valid question: I don't smoke in my car, don't smoke in my house or garage and I have to walk halfway across the building at work to watch semi-depressed people get their only happiness of the day through the inhalation of carcinogens.
So I quit.
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Then a big booming voice chimed in from the back of my head with "WHY?"
That's a valid question: I don't smoke in my car, don't smoke in my house or garage and I have to walk halfway across the building at work to watch semi-depressed people get their only happiness of the day through the inhalation of carcinogens.
So I quit.
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02-01-11, 02:39 PM
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02-01-11, 02:51 PM
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Also, how come you are always a recovering alcoholic, but when someone quits smoking you are just an x-smoker? Even when the chemically addicting affects of cigarettes are well documented, but the addicting affects of alcohol seem more phycological?
Possible that your response is the answer.
Oh, I enjoy beer and alcohol in general, but I have restricted myself to one night a week in order to lose weight.
Possible that your response is the answer.
Oh, I enjoy beer and alcohol in general, but I have restricted myself to one night a week in order to lose weight.
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02-01-11, 03:01 PM
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Your risk balancing skills need some work. Smoking kills 5 times the number of people that alcohol abuse does.
Moreover, there's pretty solid evidence that moderate use of alcohol can improve your health and longevity.
By contrast, there is no health benefit to any amount of smoking, and even "moderate" smoking increases your chance of an early death.
Not to mention that smoking will make you slower on the bike.
Moreover, there's pretty solid evidence that moderate use of alcohol can improve your health and longevity.
By contrast, there is no health benefit to any amount of smoking, and even "moderate" smoking increases your chance of an early death.
Not to mention that smoking will make you slower on the bike.
Food for thought.
02-01-11, 03:04 PM
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Cigarettes: filthy habit, glad I quit and I feel much better for it.
Alcohol: It's never been my thing. Drank when I partied but quickly realized the slippery slope and stopped drinking in excess. Now I have a beer or two at social gatherings and that's it.
Illegal Drugs: I enjoyed pot, felt great and had fun with my friends. I don't smoke that anymore either but mostly because I'm a parent and don't socialize with many people who still do. However if I'm at a party and someone passes a spliff then it's on.
Alcohol: It's never been my thing. Drank when I partied but quickly realized the slippery slope and stopped drinking in excess. Now I have a beer or two at social gatherings and that's it.
Illegal Drugs: I enjoyed pot, felt great and had fun with my friends. I don't smoke that anymore either but mostly because I'm a parent and don't socialize with many people who still do. However if I'm at a party and someone passes a spliff then it's on.
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02-01-11, 03:17 PM
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I suspect the answer has more to do with history than anything else. The language of "recovery" is very much tied to Alcoholics Anonymous and twelve step programs. The language around smoking is probably more influenced by the tobacco industry's need to characterize it as a "habit" that can be broken with will power.
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Tobacco use causes more deaths per year than those related to alcohol use, including accidents: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr57/nvsr57_14.pdf
Just sayin'...
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Perhaps for you but not for me.
'Ex-smoker' acknowledges that cigarettes are/were a part of your life.
'Non-smoker' is another level of independence. I don't pine. I pity.
And anyone calling cigarettes a 'habit' is lucky. It's not a habit for many people. It's a serious addiction.
'Ex-smoker' acknowledges that cigarettes are/were a part of your life.
'Non-smoker' is another level of independence. I don't pine. I pity.
And anyone calling cigarettes a 'habit' is lucky. It's not a habit for many people. It's a serious addiction.
02-01-11, 03:24 PM
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Perhaps for you but not for me.
'Ex-smoker' acknowledges that cigarettes are/were a part of your life.
'Non-smoker' is another level of independence. I don't pine. I pity.
And anyone calling cigarettes a 'habit' is lucky. It's not a habit for many people. It's a serious addiction.
'Ex-smoker' acknowledges that cigarettes are/were a part of your life.
'Non-smoker' is another level of independence. I don't pine. I pity.
And anyone calling cigarettes a 'habit' is lucky. It's not a habit for many people. It's a serious addiction.
Oh, and good work on quitting.
02-01-11, 04:13 PM
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Also, how come you are always a recovering alcoholic, but when someone quits smoking you are just an x-smoker? Even when the chemically addicting affects of cigarettes are well documented, but the addicting affects of alcohol seem more phycological?
Possible that your response is the answer.
Oh, I enjoy beer and alcohol in general, but I have restricted myself to one night a week in order to lose weight.
Possible that your response is the answer.
Oh, I enjoy beer and alcohol in general, but I have restricted myself to one night a week in order to lose weight.
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. But from what I've seen and heard, alcoholics get very very into it. They drink like smokers smoke. But they're ingesting a lot of alcohol. Enough to be constantly mind altering in a significant way. Their hygene, diet, and ability to perform small motor tasks will suffer significantly: In other words they'll look "plastered." The effect that has on the body is huge.
By contrast a smoker is addicted, but their smoking mostly just makes them smell like cigarettes and maybe suffer from mildly higher blood pressure. They're not drowning their liver or brain in nicotine. They're drowning their lungs in tar, very slowly.
I would definitely say that smoking is more unhealthy than drinking. But being an alcoholic I would guess is worse. I'd certainly rather be married to a smoker than an alcoholic. Although my wife is neither and I appreciate that very much.
I'm not a medical professional.
02-01-11, 04:17 PM
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Oh oh I know! It's: Stupid big number compared to the Earth's circumference which the average person has no concept of the size of.
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I started cycling to quit smoking. Haven't quit yet, but I assume that I'm better of than if I just smoked and didn't exercise. Once my legs were in better shape than my lungs, I started having hernia and knee problems, so I'm still having trouble riding hard enough to really slay my lungs during rides, which really helps me in not wanting to smoke anymore.
I drink plenty, but good beer is one of my true loves, so there's no guilt there. Luckily, I'm not predisposed to alcoholism. If only quitting smoking was as easy.
I drink plenty, but good beer is one of my true loves, so there's no guilt there. Luckily, I'm not predisposed to alcoholism. If only quitting smoking was as easy.
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Tobacco use causes more deaths per year than those related to alcohol use, including accidents: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr57/nvsr57_14.pdf
Just sayin'...
Just sayin'...
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02-01-11, 05:23 PM
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Down to about 4 a day, cigs not beer. Well okay, beer too.
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Food in mass quantities... if it's there, I'm eating it...
But, genetics are on my side. Almost 30 and I at 6'1 I weight about 175 lbs. Very lean. What scares me is what's going on with my arteries... I guess it's a good thing I stay active. If my metabolism comes to a screeching halt as many tell me it will, I suppose I will have to calm my eating habits but I freakin love food...
But, genetics are on my side. Almost 30 and I at 6'1 I weight about 175 lbs. Very lean. What scares me is what's going on with my arteries... I guess it's a good thing I stay active. If my metabolism comes to a screeching halt as many tell me it will, I suppose I will have to calm my eating habits but I freakin love food...