Minimum touring gear and skills for remote roads
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The be all end all device I carry is my PLB, or Personal Locator Beacon. I hope to never need it, but...if it becomes life or death I will. On the other gear note it really mostly turns into a decision on comfort. You can sleep on the ground if you have no tent for example, unless you are in conditions where you may get hypothermia.
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Animals:
Every black bear and cougar I have ever seen was running away from me and they almost always saw me before I saw them. I wouldn't worry too much about them, but I understand the wisdom in being prepared. If there's an issue where you'll be riding, check to see if any precautions are recommended.
Mechanical Beakdown:
If you're cycling alone and there's a chance you won't run into anyone else for days, a more extensive list of tools makes sense (Like spare spokes and such). Usually that won't be the case and you can flag down a motorist within a few hours. The more remote the location, the more likely the motorist will stop to help. Then again, you'll be touring and have all your camping gear and food with you so as long as you're not seriously hurt the situation won't be too dire. Sometimes, you learn to be creative to keep going like turning your bike into a single speed until you can ride somewhere to get a new derailleur. I once needed a new wheel 150 miles from a bike shop so I had one FedEx'd to me in the town I was in.
Injury/ Health Emergency:
I started bringing one of these with me after I broke my leg skiing one winter far from help. SPOT provides a pretty neat service. Mine is one of the first models and my service costs me $100 a year. It's a really slick way for me to let my wife and others where I am and that I'm okay. I can use it to send a pre-written text or e-mail to my wife or buddies for help. I can also push the SOS emergency button and SPOT will contact the appropriate rescue services for my location and give them the coordinates of my signal.
Have fun and go for it! I encourage you to see if you can talk a buddy or two in going with you. It's fun going alone, but it can be fun going with others too.
Every black bear and cougar I have ever seen was running away from me and they almost always saw me before I saw them. I wouldn't worry too much about them, but I understand the wisdom in being prepared. If there's an issue where you'll be riding, check to see if any precautions are recommended.
Mechanical Beakdown:
If you're cycling alone and there's a chance you won't run into anyone else for days, a more extensive list of tools makes sense (Like spare spokes and such). Usually that won't be the case and you can flag down a motorist within a few hours. The more remote the location, the more likely the motorist will stop to help. Then again, you'll be touring and have all your camping gear and food with you so as long as you're not seriously hurt the situation won't be too dire. Sometimes, you learn to be creative to keep going like turning your bike into a single speed until you can ride somewhere to get a new derailleur. I once needed a new wheel 150 miles from a bike shop so I had one FedEx'd to me in the town I was in.
Injury/ Health Emergency:
I started bringing one of these with me after I broke my leg skiing one winter far from help. SPOT provides a pretty neat service. Mine is one of the first models and my service costs me $100 a year. It's a really slick way for me to let my wife and others where I am and that I'm okay. I can use it to send a pre-written text or e-mail to my wife or buddies for help. I can also push the SOS emergency button and SPOT will contact the appropriate rescue services for my location and give them the coordinates of my signal.
Have fun and go for it! I encourage you to see if you can talk a buddy or two in going with you. It's fun going alone, but it can be fun going with others too.
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Just me, but I find both unnecessary and choose to avoid them. I'd consider a Spot for blue water sailing, but for bike touring or even remote backpacking, I'll pass.
That said, I can see where some might want to spring for one or the other device especially if they want to appease family members who worry about them.
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They do have pretty different modes of operation which mean they tend to serve different purposes (with some overlap). The PLB's avoid subscription costs, while the Spot you pay for the service, not just the device. You can run up some really big fees if you actually have search and rescue called out.
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They do have pretty different modes of operation which mean they tend to serve different purposes (with some overlap). The PLB's avoid subscription costs, while the Spot you pay for the service, not just the device. You can run up some really big fees if you actually have search and rescue called out.
Just me, but I find both unnecessary and choose to avoid them. I'd consider a Spot for blue water sailing, but for bike touring or even remote backpacking, I'll pass.
That said, I can see where some might want to spring for one or the other device especially if they want to appease family members who worry about them.
Just me, but I find both unnecessary and choose to avoid them. I'd consider a Spot for blue water sailing, but for bike touring or even remote backpacking, I'll pass.
That said, I can see where some might want to spring for one or the other device especially if they want to appease family members who worry about them.
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interesting about the differences between the two things (dont know anything about them) but your comment about search and rescue fees is certainly valid. I do know that most definitely if a helicopter is called in, you are looking at a fee of somewhere around 3, 4, 5000 dollars minimum. Someone I know had this experience in B.C over 20 years ago and the bill was about 3500 I believe, so its reasonable that it would be much higher today.
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I don't really know the fees rules here, and may vary from region to region, or a case by case thing (decided by someone in the loop of the specific incident, response people or whatnot--but an assumption on my part, dont really have the real facts)
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