Reality check on average speed.
09-07-08, 05:24 PM
#126
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
09-07-08, 06:44 PM
#127
.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Rocket City, No'ala
Posts: 12,764
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 5.2, 1985 Pinarello Treviso, 1990 Gardin Shred, 2006 Bianchi San Jose
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 29 Times
in
14 Posts
Pcad, keep it up.
"Manic depression is touching my soul
I know what I want but I just dont know
How to, go about gettin it
Manic depression is a frustrating mess." - JH
09-07-08, 06:49 PM
#128
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
09-07-08, 06:51 PM
#129
pan y agua
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 31,339
Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1471 Post(s)
Liked 755 Times
in
390 Posts
20.6mph for 138 miles today HTFU old man.
__________________
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
09-07-08, 07:48 PM
#130
Burning Matches.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 9,714
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4077 Post(s)
Liked 1,004 Times
in
677 Posts
If you look at our local monthly TT resuls, there is usually a few guys that go over 25 mph. The TT is 10 miles, so 24 minutes is 25mph. For example, here 5 out of 55 did it. If you click on the other dates for results, it is important to note that the course changed at some point and now has a net elevation gain of about 100 feet.
Edit: One of the names consistently around 25mph is also a BF member...
Edit 2: pcad, I do not disagree with your premise. There are certainly a lot of fast guys. The fastest ones seem to be really modest about it, and the ones that think they are really fast are the most vocal about it I wonder how people that are reading really fast speeds even know they are supposed to calibrate their computers...
Edit: One of the names consistently around 25mph is also a BF member...
Edit 2: pcad, I do not disagree with your premise. There are certainly a lot of fast guys. The fastest ones seem to be really modest about it, and the ones that think they are really fast are the most vocal about it
I wonder how people that are reading really fast speeds even know they are supposed to calibrate their computers...
__________________
ElJamoquio didn't hate the world, per se; he was just constantly disappointed by humanity.
09-07-08, 08:11 PM
#131
Bring May Flowers
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Soon to be South Carolina!
Posts: 961
Bikes: '10 Kuota Kebel
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
correctamundo !
09-07-08, 09:37 PM
#133
Eternal NooB
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sonoma County,CA
Posts: 939
Bikes: Calfee Tetra Pro, Lemond BA, Spec Roubaix, Riv Homer Hilson, Cielo
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Here are my numbers from my bike journal log:
rides this year: 71
Miles: 1,142
Avg speed: 15 mph
Not that great, but I don't think it's bad since I just started riding seriously last January...
rides this year: 71
Miles: 1,142
Avg speed: 15 mph
Not that great, but I don't think it's bad since I just started riding seriously last January...
__________________
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.
09-07-08, 09:52 PM
#134
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
Max speed 16mph? Are you sure that's entirely safe with that dog in the basket and all?
09-07-08, 10:25 PM
#135
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,138
Bikes: 2 many
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1266 Post(s)
Liked 323 Times
in
169 Posts
10 is a lot better with bikes or cars around. 10 is more typicall.
The dog is harnessed in the middle of the basket under his belly very securely. Double straps in case one breaks. Not a spring loaded clip connection, a chain link with a threaded bolt opening/closing on one side.
09-08-08, 07:08 AM
#136
gmt
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Binghamton, NY
Posts: 12,509
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
There's always someone faster.
our club does weekly TTs, and there are probably 6 guys who exceed 25mph on 10-mile events, 4 who do the same on 20km, and 1 who is consistently over that speed on 40km events.
My own speeds do not get me into that echelon (YET), as my best 10 miler is just over 24mph. This takes an effort which is near bonk-level at the end of the event.
However...
power is something that one can increase with time and training. There is a reason why the TT is called the "race of truth" and one cannot make enormous increases in TT speeds without spending a lot of time training. There is no ceiling though! There is a guy (over 55) who does not belong to the club but is relatively local and is closer to 30mph on shorter TTs, and I know another ex-racer who could do 29mph. These guys would obliterate any current club rider, and yet they both know people who can obliterate them. International professionals are doing shorter time trial events at 31mph plus now.
My point, if you have yet to figure it out, is that the numbers themselves are irrelevant, save being used as a measuring stick against YOUR OWN PERSONAL NUMBERS.
There is a reason why you are supposed to ignore the other riders on the TT course. Ride your own speeds. Don't be a fool and try to compare yourself against a rider who produces 200% of your power. You will never make a 200% jump in power that way. The power increases will come if you train based on WHERE YOUR POWER IS NOW and add to it incrementally.
grrrrrr
our club does weekly TTs, and there are probably 6 guys who exceed 25mph on 10-mile events, 4 who do the same on 20km, and 1 who is consistently over that speed on 40km events.
My own speeds do not get me into that echelon (YET), as my best 10 miler is just over 24mph. This takes an effort which is near bonk-level at the end of the event.
However...
power is something that one can increase with time and training. There is a reason why the TT is called the "race of truth" and one cannot make enormous increases in TT speeds without spending a lot of time training. There is no ceiling though! There is a guy (over 55) who does not belong to the club but is relatively local and is closer to 30mph on shorter TTs, and I know another ex-racer who could do 29mph. These guys would obliterate any current club rider, and yet they both know people who can obliterate them. International professionals are doing shorter time trial events at 31mph plus now.
My point, if you have yet to figure it out, is that the numbers themselves are irrelevant, save being used as a measuring stick against YOUR OWN PERSONAL NUMBERS.
There is a reason why you are supposed to ignore the other riders on the TT course. Ride your own speeds. Don't be a fool and try to compare yourself against a rider who produces 200% of your power. You will never make a 200% jump in power that way. The power increases will come if you train based on WHERE YOUR POWER IS NOW and add to it incrementally.
grrrrrr
09-08-08, 07:31 AM
#137
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
09-08-08, 11:07 AM
#138
Junk Mile Junkie
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Webster, NY
Posts: 6,465
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Just because you're not one of the faster guys at a USCF TT doesn't mean you're not one of the faster guys on BF. You are. You could be the slowest guy at the TT and be one of the faster guys on BF.
There are something like EIGHT MILLION cyclists in the US who fit the BF mold (i.e., they ride 3+ times weekly as a hobby or sport). There are what, 50,000 licensed USCF racers? I'm a fat 50 year old and I'm faster than at least a third of the licensed racers. Which means that there are how many faster cyclists than me in the US? 30,000? That would mean there are at least 7.97 MILLION who are slower. So for umd, that means 7.99 MILLION who are slower. But we're all talking about average speeds here half the time as if everybody is a Cat 2/3 racer.
That's the point of this thread. We are not all Cat 2/3 racers umd. YOU are. How many miles did you ride last year dude? 15,000? I rode 12,000. How many rode that many miles here? You can count them on one friggin hand. All I'm saying is that the average speed talk here is more inflated than my own ego. And that's saying something.
There are something like EIGHT MILLION cyclists in the US who fit the BF mold (i.e., they ride 3+ times weekly as a hobby or sport). There are what, 50,000 licensed USCF racers? I'm a fat 50 year old and I'm faster than at least a third of the licensed racers. Which means that there are how many faster cyclists than me in the US? 30,000? That would mean there are at least 7.97 MILLION who are slower. So for umd, that means 7.99 MILLION who are slower. But we're all talking about average speeds here half the time as if everybody is a Cat 2/3 racer.
That's the point of this thread. We are not all Cat 2/3 racers umd. YOU are. How many miles did you ride last year dude? 15,000? I rode 12,000. How many rode that many miles here? You can count them on one friggin hand. All I'm saying is that the average speed talk here is more inflated than my own ego. And that's saying something.
09-08-08, 11:10 AM
#139
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
God help us. Nothing is worse than being pwned by a Fred. That's just brutal.
09-08-08, 11:24 AM
#141
A Little Bent
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Struggling up a hillside in Vermont, USA... ..........................................
Posts: 2,858
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
There is always a bigger Fred...
Today, I was 2:30 into my 3:00 ride all decked out in day glow yellow wearing a CamelBak and out of the corner of my I caught a cyclist coming off the covered bridge making right hand turn behind me...
I picked up the pace a bit, but he was right there...
Then I hear him say "want to draft me"...
He is wearing shorts, tee shirt, purple helmet, and Birkenstocks, riding a rusty flat bar 1970 Univega with knobby tires...
Now I am riding a Scott CR1 with a PT so I could not lower myself to draft him...
Thinking fast, I struck up a conversation...
He ended up being a real nice guy. He was interested in all the stats I had at my finger tips...
I suggested he get a road bike as he was a pretty strong rider...
At least he didn't drop me...
Today, I was 2:30 into my 3:00 ride all decked out in day glow yellow wearing a CamelBak and out of the corner of my I caught a cyclist coming off the covered bridge making right hand turn behind me...
I picked up the pace a bit, but he was right there...
Then I hear him say "want to draft me"...
He is wearing shorts, tee shirt, purple helmet, and Birkenstocks, riding a rusty flat bar 1970 Univega with knobby tires...
Now I am riding a Scott CR1 with a PT so I could not lower myself to draft him...
Thinking fast, I struck up a conversation...
He ended up being a real nice guy. He was interested in all the stats I had at my finger tips...
I suggested he get a road bike as he was a pretty strong rider...
At least he didn't drop me...
__________________
09-08-08, 11:28 AM
#142
gmt
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Binghamton, NY
Posts: 12,509
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
The fastest non-pro that I know wears T-shirts, has never shaved his legs, and rides a 90s 'dale with downtube shifters.
He can (when on form) drop anyone around here and is former state champ of AZ. Probably doesn't even know what "fred" means. He is too busy riding past you and winning the race to care about that BS.
He can (when on form) drop anyone around here and is former state champ of AZ. Probably doesn't even know what "fred" means. He is too busy riding past you and winning the race to care about that BS.
09-08-08, 11:32 AM
#143
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
Thankfully for every 100 Freds who try, only 2-3 succeed. With any luck I only run into one Nightmare Fred each season. But when it does happen it is rather nasty.
09-08-08, 11:40 AM
#144
stole your bike
Sometimes it's nice to live in an average speed wonderland, especially after a hard ride that leaves your legs hurting because that little read out on your computer makes you feel like you were doing ok even though deep down you know that a tail wind was more responsible for your average speed being higher than yesterday.
__________________
I like pie
I like pie
09-08-08, 06:17 PM
#146
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SE Minnesota
Posts: 12,275
Bikes: are better than yours.
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Hmmm, (8,000,000 - 30,000) x .02 = 159,400 fast freds just waiting for you! I think I know one of them. He rides a huge Rivendell in SPD sandals. Really.
09-09-08, 12:12 AM
#147
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
All this talk of 25mph TTs, tonight was the local TT. I was sick so I didn't ride but I was there with my camera. Some of these guys take their TTs very seriously...
Some serious speed
Some TT bling. Note the name on the top tube. His nickname is "Blinger"
More of Blinger's bling
Mr. Chicken Ranch can move. Did the "race of truth" in Solvang at the tour of california and beat several of the pro's times. There is a video about it on testrider.com
But Gary is usually the fastest. He had the all-time record on the old 10 mile course of 21:28, or 27.8mph...
And Tom reguarly does 25mph on this course, although I didn't note his time today.
There was a recumbent too. One of the slowest riders on the course as far as I could tell
Some serious speed
Some TT bling. Note the name on the top tube. His nickname is "Blinger"
More of Blinger's bling
Mr. Chicken Ranch can move. Did the "race of truth" in Solvang at the tour of california and beat several of the pro's times. There is a video about it on testrider.com
But Gary is usually the fastest. He had the all-time record on the old 10 mile course of 21:28, or 27.8mph...
And Tom reguarly does 25mph on this course, although I didn't note his time today.
There was a recumbent too. One of the slowest riders on the course as far as I could tell
09-09-08, 05:02 AM
#148
Senior Member
You got it easy. My RT to climb Bear Mountain is more like 175 miles. Plus I have to ride through 8,000,000 traffic signals in Queens to get there.
09-09-08, 05:03 AM
#149
Peloton Shelter Dog
Thread Starter
09-09-08, 05:57 AM
#150
Portland Fred
