Origami Swift - Thoughts, Ideas For a New Version of a Classic
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That sounds cool. Yes, I would love to test ride, though I'm just a regular person who happens to like riding folding bikes. My opinion doesn't mean much. My friends do not understand my fondness for folding bikes. I just like the concept of folding bikes, the engineering and design behind them. I appreciate the offer.
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A touring model with 3-pack mounts on the fork could be fun. Similar to the forks of the VO Neutrino and BF All-Packa
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Please keep it light, fast and beautiful.
(Nothing wrong with mules btw. It's just that they're a different animal than a swift. Useful and affable as mules are they also lack a working pair of a certain part of their anatomy).
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My nagging worry is that this Swift is going to end up being a Mule.
Please keep it light, fast and beautiful.
(Nothing wrong with mules btw. It's just that they're a different animal than a swift. Useful and affable as mules are they also lack a working pair of a certain part of their anatomy).
Please keep it light, fast and beautiful.
(Nothing wrong with mules btw. It's just that they're a different animal than a swift. Useful and affable as mules are they also lack a working pair of a certain part of their anatomy).
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Looking forward to seeing what off-piste mechanical stunts we can do with the steerer and headset.
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So much talk in this thread about wheelbase and stability, but IME one of the bigger factors for stability is having the grips have some distance from the axis of rotation of the fork. This is one of the reasons why Bromptons feel so "twitchy" is because handlebar mast essentially extends up the axis of rotation of the fork, and the handlebars are not set to give more reach. More distance from the axis of rotation = better stability. With that in mind it's nice to see that this bike has an actual stem, as that's going to do a lot to keep the bike feeling stable without negatively impacting the nimbleness of the whole package.
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So much talk in this thread about wheelbase and stability, but IME one of the bigger factors for stability is having the grips have some distance from the axis of rotation of the fork. This is one of the reasons why Bromptons feel so "twitchy" is because handlebar mast essentially extends up the axis of rotation of the fork, and the handlebars are not set to give more reach. More distance from the axis of rotation = better stability. With that in mind it's nice to see that this bike has an actual stem, as that's going to do a lot to keep the bike feeling stable without negatively impacting the nimbleness of the whole package.
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Looking good!
It looks like you've made most of the changes I would have wanted on my Swift: luggage rack (biggie), disk brakes (not as much a biggie).
As for the stem bottle mount, I use mine for a foldie lock.
It works quite well.
It looks like you've made most of the changes I would have wanted on my Swift: luggage rack (biggie), disk brakes (not as much a biggie).
As for the stem bottle mount, I use mine for a foldie lock.
It works quite well.
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We will have bottle mounts on the stem and on the top tube.
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That being said, leaving everything else the same and changing wheelbase will directly affect stability.
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I took a screenshot of this Origami logo on an unidentified bike currently up on the Origimi website. I like the font and the graphic.
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That is actually one of our Crane 8 models from about 8 years ago.
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Nice prototype, Pinigis!
However, is there any reason to use a 34mm threaded headset? Otherwise, a standard 44mm internal thread-less headset will be definitely better.
However, is there any reason to use a 34mm threaded headset? Otherwise, a standard 44mm internal thread-less headset will be definitely better.
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Here are a couple of photos of our latest rear rack design. If you tip the bike back, it rests on the trolly wheels and can be rolled in its folded position.
Tip the back back to roll it on the trolly wheels
Tip the back back to roll it on the trolly wheels
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Rack's more streamline. Is that a folding stem release I see or is it vertically adjustable?
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Unfolded :
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Here we have Jipe dispensing advise while only a few months ago he was hectoring and haranguing PP for doing morning more than selling PRC-made bikes. Rich. Very rich.
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OK, The rack with wheels was not stable enough to be useful, and making it wider is just not going to be an attractive option, so we are going back to the original rack and modifying it to look better.
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Xootr sold a beam rack specially designed to clamp around their model's over-sized seatpost. I toured with it in the Yucatan once and found it worked ok. It wasn't capable of hauling super-düper heavy loads, but carried my clothes no problem and performed better than other beam racks I'd tried in the past, I think owing to the larger surface area underneath the clamp on the enlarged seatpost.
Anyway, good luck whatever you do. For what it's worth I thought your last rack design looked ok, so pity it wasn't up to snuff. Can't help but think that maybe the gods might be saying "keep it simple" though. I realise that's my own bias coming out.