1985 Trek 620 Build: A Unique Bike For My Old Man
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Amazing build continues. Love the images.
I'm stunned by how long the rear stays are, thus requiring that extra long spacer. I'm used to struggling to get a rear wheel in w/o deflating the tire. That sure won't be a problem here. This is almost to a utility frame with that back end.
What was the stack height on your fork. That Grand Cru headset needs, at least, 41mm. Correct?
Great stuff, as always!
Owen
I'm stunned by how long the rear stays are, thus requiring that extra long spacer. I'm used to struggling to get a rear wheel in w/o deflating the tire. That sure won't be a problem here. This is almost to a utility frame with that back end.
What was the stack height on your fork. That Grand Cru headset needs, at least, 41mm. Correct?
Great stuff, as always!
Owen
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1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King
1971 Gitane Tour de France (original owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
(replacing stolen 1981 TR Everest custom)
1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)
1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King
1971 Gitane Tour de France (original owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
(replacing stolen 1981 TR Everest custom)
1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)
#77
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It is a Tange crown/steerer. So you suggest starting from the crown? My inclination was to start from the dropout as the hole in the crown is about twice the diameter of the vent hole in the fork crown. What'd you use for a tracer wire? I was thinking about a guitar string.
I hope I can make it happen; I'll give it my best.
I hope I can make it happen; I'll give it my best.
#78
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Looking good! Your pop is going to be pleased.
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#80
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Nope, used the vent holes as-is. I wanted to drill them out and eyelet them, but the frame builder didn't like the idea of removing metal from a fork blade. This is how it worked out (sorry Justin for going O/T):
In through the fork blade vent hole:
Out through the fork crown vent hole and down the steerer:
The wire is single-conductor wire, which I later swapped out for dual-conductor wire when I decided I didn't want to use the frame as common ground.
In through the fork blade vent hole:
Out through the fork crown vent hole and down the steerer:
The wire is single-conductor wire, which I later swapped out for dual-conductor wire when I decided I didn't want to use the frame as common ground.
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I'm stunned by how long the rear stays are, thus requiring that extra long spacer. I'm used to struggling to get a rear wheel in w/o deflating the tire. That sure won't be a problem here. This is almost to a utility frame with that back end.
What was the stack height on your fork. That Grand Cru headset needs, at least, 41mm. Correct?
Great stuff, as always!
Owen
What was the stack height on your fork. That Grand Cru headset needs, at least, 41mm. Correct?
Great stuff, as always!
Owen
Right. Longest stays I've seen . I've not measured the stack height of the fork. I wasn't expecting the VO headset would require a spacer here, but I'm very hesitant to cut the fork.
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Salutes Colonel. Great project. Just wish you'd quit referring to your dad as "the old man". Familiar colloquialism, of course, but I feel aged when you say that. ...you whippersnapper, you.
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I remember the thread you started about that bike, Standalone. That's a fantastic build. Very nice. I actually have a '72 Grand Prix; my FG/SS frame.
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I've made some progress and changed a few things.
The wheels are built. The front is a Sanyo dynamo/Sapim DB SS/polished CR-18, but will probably be moved to my mother's bike because I just bought an SRAM i-Light dynamo and two more polished CR-18s. The rear wheel is a VO Grand Cru Touring hub/Sapim DB SS/polished CR-18. Mom's bike will get a SA XRF-5(W).
The Soma Oxford was a pleasant surprise. While it is slightly narrower than the Nitto Albatross, all of the other features are there. It has the same bend and it DOES accept bar end shiftes (the ends are drilled out) and it costs a LOT less.
Sorry for the bump without any good pics, but I should have some this evening.
I am seriously thinking about taking fender1's suggestion and returning to my powdercoater with the Dajia Expedition rear and VO Pass Hunter front rack and having him coat them to match the bike. My dad doesn't have to have a front rack, but the fact that it adds another fender mounting point is a big plus in my book and it's also a better point to mount the headlight. If I do this I won't go to the trouble of trying to route the wire through the fork (I've not been looking forward to that).
The wheels are built. The front is a Sanyo dynamo/Sapim DB SS/polished CR-18, but will probably be moved to my mother's bike because I just bought an SRAM i-Light dynamo and two more polished CR-18s. The rear wheel is a VO Grand Cru Touring hub/Sapim DB SS/polished CR-18. Mom's bike will get a SA XRF-5(W).
The Soma Oxford was a pleasant surprise. While it is slightly narrower than the Nitto Albatross, all of the other features are there. It has the same bend and it DOES accept bar end shiftes (the ends are drilled out) and it costs a LOT less.
Sorry for the bump without any good pics, but I should have some this evening.
I am seriously thinking about taking fender1's suggestion and returning to my powdercoater with the Dajia Expedition rear and VO Pass Hunter front rack and having him coat them to match the bike. My dad doesn't have to have a front rack, but the fact that it adds another fender mounting point is a big plus in my book and it's also a better point to mount the headlight. If I do this I won't go to the trouble of trying to route the wire through the fork (I've not been looking forward to that).
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That's a nice comparison, Justin. Photos like this do a lot more for the visual approximation of the shape of the bars than mere measurements and dimensions.
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It's done. Finally. I'm very pleased; I think it's my coolest build yet. Most importantly, my dad is really stoked. He loves it. We went on a 17 mile ride yesterday and everything worked great. He loves the handlebar setup.
Lots of cool bits including a Sanyo dynamo hub and Lumotec IQ Cyo Senso R light, powdercoated VO and Dajia racks, 8sp Ultegra indexed drivetrain and VO sealed bearing BB, touring hub and pedals.
Lots of cool bits including a Sanyo dynamo hub and Lumotec IQ Cyo Senso R light, powdercoated VO and Dajia racks, 8sp Ultegra indexed drivetrain and VO sealed bearing BB, touring hub and pedals.
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Outstanding!!!
Cheers,
Chris
Cheers,
Chris
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Great work, Justin. Those coated racks look real good. A nice change from the usual chrome or polished units. Hopefully, your Pop puts it to a lot of use.
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****, wow man that is totally awesome.
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Thanks, dudes!
Tugrul, those are nubs usually used for a tandem stoker's drop bars. I found myself putting my hands there a lot when I used Albatross bars so I thought these were a good idea. They only come with clamps for 23.8mm bars, though, so I robbed some clamps from some cheap townie levers. They're nice for climbing and sprinting or just when you need to stretch your back.
Tugrul, those are nubs usually used for a tandem stoker's drop bars. I found myself putting my hands there a lot when I used Albatross bars so I thought these were a good idea. They only come with clamps for 23.8mm bars, though, so I robbed some clamps from some cheap townie levers. They're nice for climbing and sprinting or just when you need to stretch your back.
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the detail work is great man. You really put a lot of thinking (and drinking) into this one!
inceidentally this frame has my favorite feature that I really want on a bike of mine someday....lugged fastback seatstays. mmmmmmm
oohhhhhh yeah.
inceidentally this frame has my favorite feature that I really want on a bike of mine someday....lugged fastback seatstays. mmmmmmm
oohhhhhh yeah.
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Yeah, I think this was the first year for their investment cast lugs. The hanger is original to my 1988 Voyageur.
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Well thought out, functional and beautiful , what more can you ask of a bike? I'm sure you're dad is impressed.
Are you an only child?
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There is no doubt you must really love your dad. Elegant, functional, well planned & executed. Really beautiful work!
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#97
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Beautiful bike and a truly fine craftsmanship. I've put those silver cables on my Saga build. I tried to buy the oxford bars a few months ago and VO was out of stock. I'll bet you got the last pair.
I ended up getting the Soma Sparrow 56 bars.
Again. That's a stunning bike.
I ended up getting the Soma Sparrow 56 bars.
Again. That's a stunning bike.
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Thanks for all the compliments. I thought about what I would want in a bike if I could only have one. This can pretty much do it all. Were it my only bike I'd probably have put drop bars on it, but dad really liked the Albatross bars I had on my tourer for a while.
Yep, I love the old guy. He's pretty alright.
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Fabulous build, Justin. Great attention to the small details that count.
The best part has got to be riding with the Dad.
1000% cool.
Thanks for the fabulous photos, to boot.
Owen
The best part has got to be riding with the Dad.
1000% cool.
Thanks for the fabulous photos, to boot.
Owen
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1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King
1971 Gitane Tour de France (original owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
(replacing stolen 1981 TR Everest custom)
1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)
1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King
1971 Gitane Tour de France (original owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
(replacing stolen 1981 TR Everest custom)
1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)