Pick teh new racing bike...
02-21-08, 06:53 PM
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02-21-08, 06:54 PM
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i concur. i like it better than force
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02-21-08, 06:55 PM
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Replaceable derailleur hangers are overrated. They are replaceable, yes, but they are machined from raw aluminum stock so they are really easy to bend. Me and another rider bumped into each other at low speed (< walking speed) on a training ride a couple weeks ago; both of us fell and just from that little fall, her derailleur hanger was bent all the way into her spokes. One of the other riders there bent it back with his hands to ride the last 30 miles.
Trek has gone away from replaceable hangers in favor of forged aluminum hangers which are tougher to bend. You aren't able to replace it (actually, you have to send it back to Trek's factory to have it replaced), but they are tough enough that, if a crash is hard enough to bend the hanger, you'll have other issues as well.
Trek has gone away from replaceable hangers in favor of forged aluminum hangers which are tougher to bend. You aren't able to replace it (actually, you have to send it back to Trek's factory to have it replaced), but they are tough enough that, if a crash is hard enough to bend the hanger, you'll have other issues as well.
02-21-08, 07:02 PM
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Well, basically, I've always had a hard time getting enough tension on the cable without using the barrel adjuster at least a bit. Am I missing something here? Otherwise, yeah, it helps with the SRAM stuff to have the barrel adjuster so you don't have to trim the ring which you don't have it in.
I'm trying to think of why you'd need barrel adjusters on the FD. I've never had to use the FD barrel adjuster before. I've used the RD barrel adjuster to (try to) fix a mal-tuned RD mid-ride before, but other otherwise, I don't touch them. I adjust things in my garage and use the barrel adjuster on the derailleur for tuning.
The FD mechanism is usually blunt enough that no fine tuning adjustment is needed. Just set the bottom stop, attach the cable, shift up to the big ring and set the top stop. But then again, I've always used Campy and Shimano which allow for trim. Are you using the barrel adjuster to adjust the FD to make it so you don't need trim?
The FD mechanism is usually blunt enough that no fine tuning adjustment is needed. Just set the bottom stop, attach the cable, shift up to the big ring and set the top stop. But then again, I've always used Campy and Shimano which allow for trim. Are you using the barrel adjuster to adjust the FD to make it so you don't need trim?
02-21-08, 07:37 PM
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Well, basically, I've always had a hard time getting enough tension on the cable without using the barrel adjuster at least a bit. Am I missing something here? Otherwise, yeah, it helps with the SRAM stuff to have the barrel adjuster so you don't have to trim the ring which you don't have it in.
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02-21-08, 07:41 PM
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Also, set the bottom stop a bit lower when pulling on cable, that way you can tighten it afterwards (higher), and the cable will be tighter..... if that makes sense.
02-21-08, 07:43 PM
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They are easy to bend because they are cheaply made and they are cheaply made because they are easily replaced. It is more expensive to forge dropouts than it is to cut them out of sheet stock.
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02-21-08, 07:47 PM
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Other way around, isn't it? No... wait... I'm confused. You mean to set the screw in a little lower than normal (cage brushes the chain on the bottom chainring) and then attach the cable and unscrew the screw a bit to tighten the cable up (and move the cage closer to the seat tube). Right?
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02-21-08, 09:08 PM
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There's a 2007 Felt FC built with full D/A on ebay for $1900 right now. It was used last year by a u23 development team..
I kind of like Felts too, and they're definitely on my list. A buddy of mine just broke the top tube on his F1 two weeks ago in a crit and I think I cried more than he did (well, maybe not).
I kind of like Felts too, and they're definitely on my list. A buddy of mine just broke the top tube on his F1 two weeks ago in a crit and I think I cried more than he did (well, maybe not).
02-21-08, 10:45 PM
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Eco. Close, though!
02-21-08, 10:50 PM
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ive heard some bad stuff bout velo vie- a couple frame failures- then again that was when they were fresh out the womb. they might have solved the issues by now
02-21-08, 10:55 PM
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02-21-08, 11:30 PM
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i didn't know anybody actually used cable stretchers. A friend wouldn't adjust his brakes without them. I thought he was a ******. oh, well.
02-22-08, 07:51 AM
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I never use barrel adjusters. I think they cause more problems than they solve. (getting loose, creaking, constantly adjusting them since you have them)
02-22-08, 08:17 AM
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The barrel is easier, but you still can't do it by sight -- it's going to be trial and error, so the barrel really isn't needed.
02-22-08, 09:12 AM
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Good call. I like that idea.
Yep, it's actually really easy to make minor cable adjustments to the front der w/out a barrel. Just put it in the big ring, then shift to the small ring without pedaling. The derailleur will hang on the chain, and the cable will go slack. Make your adjustment with the slack cable, and try again.
The barrel is easier, but you still can't do it by sight -- it's going to be trial and error, so the barrel really isn't needed.
The barrel is easier, but you still can't do it by sight -- it's going to be trial and error, so the barrel really isn't needed.
02-22-08, 09:13 AM
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02-22-08, 09:44 AM
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No, I do that when I'm at work -- like now. I don't use my laptop in classes... Ever.
02-22-08, 10:17 AM
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02-22-08, 10:19 AM
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