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Old 05-26-23, 02:03 PM
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Last year around Halloween I had 3 out of state friends committed. One died unexpectedly in Feb (stroke), one presently undergoing cancer treatment, the last one decided it is too much for him, especially if hot + smoky (and he was very close to the guy who died, maybe still mourning).

I have a room reserved on Sat night, but need a ride from eastside Seattle - specifically = Issaquah. Heck I even bought a pair of 32mm tires.
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One thing to add for folks considering the ride but don't think that they have a suitable bike. Previously mountain bikes were officially not allowed. Starting last year that is no longer true, though the website has not been modified to reflect that change. Mountain Dave (former Cino director) verified this.
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I just posted about this on Classic Rendezvous.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
I have an overnight reservation at Alameda's but am still clearing the work calendar, so I have not yet signed up for the ride. I guess I need to do that.

One condition, though: gugie has to promise that, once he has finished his second beer, he will send a search party after me. Or at least a St. Bernard.
Rich I will happily send a search party out - “Somebody go look for Rich!” Heck I might even come look for you myself.
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag
I would have to pack up the bike, gear and clothes. I could fly myself and all that stuff the 1,000 miles (one way). I could rent a car and drive the last bit to a hotel in the area. That would probably take 2 days. Driving is 1,400 miles one way and is estimated at 30 hours on the road (3 days?).

I could then participate in the 100 mile ride.

Of course, I'd have to repeat that process to get back home using the rental car and plane. I'm guessing it would be $2k - $3k..
I think that's a significant overestimate. I just did a quickie search and a roundtrip flight from LAX to Kalispell can be had for under $400. You can camp at the Kalispell Montessori near the start and camp at Hot Springs for the overnight. That just leaves the rental car cost, though you might be able to get someone to pick you up and drop you at the airport instead. Now if the beer budget can be kept under $1600 you can do this on a tight budget.

Also note that this a 2-day, approximately 130 mile ride, not a century.

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For me, the only way that makes sense is to make this a glorious road trip. That means to drive not fly.

I suppose it depends on how one defines "make sense".

For me, I fly a LOT for work, so it's really no big deal to hop on a plane and fly across the country. I also kind of think the most fun things in life are those that dont "make sense".

Edit: I ABSOLUTELY think the most fun things in life dont make sense
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The airfare would be times 3 people, so $1200.

Anyone know what the airlines charge to transport a packaged bike? Last I looked, BikeFlights was about $150 each way, so $900 to move the bikes.

Camping on the far side of an airplane flight? Hmmm,...

Camping en route and at the destination would work. Hotels are just a LOT easier.

An automobile trip would also mean no cost to transport the bikes. Gasoline would be approximately $500.

Priceless - a fun road trip across the Great Basin, up close and personal, which I've never before seen and which we have discussed several times.

The wife will think I'm bonkers but I'll talk to her about this tonight.

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I've been there three times, all with family. It's always a highlight of our summer. The last two years riding with my kid have been great bonding and proud dad memories.

We live about 500 miles away, and usually make a two or three day camping trip out of the drive to Kalispell. We've always had a great time on the way out there. If I were to do it without my wife/kids/dog, I would do like northbend last year, and hop on a train.

As far as this year, I don't think it's in the cards for us...
But who knows. If you have the time and the means, definitely worth the trip.

A couple of other things. Plenty of local folks do the ride, and some on modernish gravel type bikes. A few people have pedaled on modern custom steel bikes.




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Take a train ride... I'll have to look into that.

Union Station in LA to Kalispell. I'm fairly sure they take bikes, too.
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag

Anyone know what the airlines charge to transport a packaged bike? Last I looked, BikeFlights was about $150 each way, so $900 to move the bike.

Alaska ships bikes for between free and $40 depending on how many checked bags you have.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
Rich I will happily send a search party out - “Somebody go look for Rich!” Heck I might even come look for you myself.
I think @gugie’s pet vulture will come look for you.
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I’ve been flying with a bike in a bag as checked luggage for several years now, including last weekend. Airlines have just charged the checked luggage fee—$30 or $35–and some airlines wave that fee for your first checked bag. Before the pandemic, some airlines (US Air, was one) would tack on an additional $100 fee for a bike, but that policy seems to have gone away for now.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
@ollo_ollo I meant to ask you when you were here picking up the Superbe, are you doing Cino this year?
Yes, was an early signup, have a room at Alameda’s & wife will be with. Don
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My wife is the breadwinner in the family and works at a company that just laid off 10,000 employees this week. We’ve been holding off making any summer plans since the layoffs were announced a few months ago. She survived the lay-offs! I’m going to broach the subject when the time is right this weekend. Cino has been a bucket list item since I first heard about the bacon lady and saw the photos of the waterfalls at the lunch stop. All the rave reviews from past participants are icing.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
I have an overnight reservation at Alameda's but am still clearing the work calendar, so I have not yet signed up for the ride. I guess I need to do that.

One condition, though: gugie has to promise that, once he has finished his second beer, he will send a search party after me. Or at least a St. Bernard.
I promise that the St. Bernard will have proper refreshments.

Just sign up, dammit.
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For those on a budget, free camping is available. For those worried about flying into Kalispell and figuring out how to get around, just ask. There will be plenty of people with cars that will shuttle you around as necessary. Trust me on this one.

This ain't Eroica with 1,000 participants. At the end of 2 days you'll have new friends for life. I didn't undertand this until my first Cino. With under 100 riders, you'll probably know some of the riders already, and those you don't, you will.

Many reasons to do this, just a few of which I'll list here:
Bikes - fantastic vintage riders, some of which are concours ready
The riders - populated by some of the friendliest riders you'll ever meet
Montana Big Skies (and yes, there are places on this ride that you will just want to stop, agape, and think, yeah, I see why they call it the Big Sky state.
The volunteers - anyone else know of an multi-day ride where some of the participants turn into volunteers on the second day?
The Bacon Lady
Pranza (lunch in Italian) under a waterfall, top tier food laid out like it's a three star Michelin restaurant
Martinis at the top of the last climb on the second day.
You'll want to dress up for dinner in Hot Springs at the end of the second day.
You ain't getting any younger. Put it off at your own risk.
Yet, with all that, Cino doesn't take itself too seriously.

At the end of the 2 day ride, the satisfaction of having suffered, fed extremely well, and proud to finish:

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While I am unable to attend, this thread needs more pictures. And in addition to Cino, there are other places to ride that don't suck.

Cino 94 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Cino 98 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Cino 108 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Cino 113 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Cino 125 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Cino 135 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Cino 144 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Cino 146 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Going To The Sun by iabisdb, on Flickr

IMG_2215 by iabisdb, on Flickr
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Don't know if this helps or not, but I will be driving from San jose on July 20.

the hitch is that after CIno I will head east on Highway 2 to my home town of Chinook, MT and will probably come back to san jose via helene and bozeman to see my brothers

So I could take a passenger, but they would probably need to figure out an alternate method back.

but I could haul a bike or 2..... last time I just put my bike in the car (audii a4 sedan) but I do have a single Thule roof rack (aero bar T-Type mount if you have one)

just noticed he poster thing will print some off and hit some local bike shops

motely crew at day 2 lunch



the start... I DNF but will great experience

Bozeman Crew....small world friends of my brother.

training ride before cino road to chief Joseph battleground south of chinnok
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
One condition, though: gugie has to promise that, once he has finished his second beer, he will send a search party after me. Or at least a St. Bernard.
I think that I can cover that request Rich. While I don't wear a small keg around my neck, my Jeep will have a stocked cooler, fixings for martinis and maybe even a single malt.
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I was planning on Cino this year. Even had my wife convinced to come and ride. But we have another vacation planned that conflicts on the timing. It looks like a great time and I'm looking forward to joining in '24.
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Sounds like a cool event. I looked at the information on the website but I was left with some questions.

1) does one contact the Montessori school if for more details? frontdesk@kalispellmontessori.com
2) is there a location to camp or a recommended hotel in town for Friday night, maybe also Sunday night?
3) I am thinking about taking the Amtrak to Whitefish, has anyone gone that way?
4) do riders carry their own tent/sleeping gear etc?

Just off the top of my head.
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Originally Posted by cinelliguy
Sounds like a cool event. I looked at the information on the website but I was left with some questions.

1) does one contact the Montessori school if for more details? frontdesk@kalispellmontessori.com
2) is there a location to camp or a recommended hotel in town for Friday night, maybe also Sunday night?
3) I am thinking about taking the Amtrak to Whitefish, has anyone gone that way?
4) do riders carry their own tent/sleeping gear etc?

Just off the top of my head.
contact email is cino@kalispellmontessori.com

the web site has a lot of details https://www.kalispellmontessori.com/cino

Hot springs would be the place to stay Friday, Sat, Sun if you can bum a ride ride to get there as it is some distance from Kallispel but lot's of people have done that

people have taking amtrak to whitefish om the past

people have stayed at https://www.whitefishbikeretreat.com/ for friday and Sunday.... hard core guys biked from there the starting point in kila

Hotesl are Symes hot springs or Alameda hot springs. You can register for camping for Saturday night at Alamedas as part of event registration
https://symeshotsprings.com/
https://www.alamedashotsprings.org/

camping gear and personal gear is put on a truck at the start and moved to hot springs for you and the reverse the second day

people with direct experience will chime in also
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This link takes you to MapMyRide maps of the routes. It shows the elevation changes, too.

There's also a link to show trails from Whitefish to Kila (Rails to Trails) but I do not yet appreciate the importance of this map. I suppose if you take a train to Whitefish and ride your bike to Kila, then it might be important.

The wife politely entertained the discussion. We talked about renting an e-bike for her as the only possible way she could participate.
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag
This link takes you to MapMyRide maps of the routes. It shows the elevation changes, too.

There's also a link to show trails from Whitefish to Kila (Rails to Trails) but I do not yet appreciate the importance of this map. I suppose if you take a train to Whitefish and ride your bike to Kila, then it might be important.

The wife politely entertained the discussion. We talked about renting an e-bike for her as the only possible way she could participate.
Can you post the MapMyRide link?

Thanks
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Guy, here are previous year’s routes on ridewithgps (thanks to @SquireBlack):

Day 1: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37292299
Day 2: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37292300

It likely won’t change much this year.
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