smallwheeler

dahon piccolo in scottsdale:



dahon curve in pink: this person is asking stupid money for shipping.

Still Pedaling

Thank you so much for looking smallwheeler. That pink one is - so pink. Believe it or not, my wife does not like pink.

We made a choice this afternoon. I started a new thread on our new bike. I hope that's OK.

fitftw

I've had my Citizen Tokyo for a year now, and I love it. Sure it's "heavy" but I rarely carry it for more than a few...seconds? It's steel, not aluminum, and that means it's much stronger and can handle more abuse. I do agree that it's very slow, and I almost never need a lower gear than 6th, but with 100 psi Kendas and an 11-28t cassette, it transforms into a very quick bike.

My girlfriend has the Miami and it's a fine bike, but a little too big for my tastes.

ThorUSA

steel is stronger than alloy ...Hmmm?

fitftw

I should have said steel is more durable than aluminum.

"No frame material is more durable than steel. It can ding, scratch, dent, even bend, and retain structural integrity. When well made and cared for, steel will last a lifetime.

The same isn't true for aluminum. Aluminum is more brittle, so it's more susceptible to failure through fatigue or damage. A single dent in the wrong place could render an aluminum frame unsafe to ride. And when aluminum fails, it fails catastrophically.

Think about it like this: glass will break before it bends. The same is true in many respects of aluminum. Steel on the other hand, will bend before it breaks, resulting in a far more resilient frame."

https://www.missionbicycle.com/blog/...el-vs-aluminum

ThorUSA

wrong in so many ways
but keep on thinking that you can compare bare metal with a finished product ..

Steel is real .... yeah a clever marketing hype from a Surly a few years back.... they are having alloy frames now as well and that slogan is dead. Small one of custom builder can built in steel and don't in alloy. But even they using other materials as well these days.

There is nothing wrong with a nice bike built with some bicycle specific light steel tubing.
there is also nothing wrong with an alloy framed bike

thor

dynaryder

Ha ha,LOLZ! Pro tip,don't get your facts from product marketing. I used an all-alloy bike for polo and it survived with only scratches. I'd still own it if using the coaster all the time hadn't started to bother my knee. My bad weather bike has an alloy frame. It was also used for polo,has hauled groceries,and been through every bad storm we've had since I got it. It's holding up just fine.

Try playing with the search engine and you'll find posts from a guy who broke like two steel Dahon frames. And not long ago,Salsa had a recall for some steel forks. Steel ain't magic.