Being poor keeps me grounded😁
#26
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Mich
Posts: 7,443
Bikes: RSO E-tire dropper fixie brifter
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 3,014 Times
in
1,935 Posts
Until any of those "people" that you are trying to fathom up can change my mind, it;ll just be textbook cash grabbing theories.
__________________
-Oh Hey!
-Oh Hey!
#27
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,369
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18467 Post(s)
Liked 15,730 Times
in
7,393 Posts
Rich or poor, it’s nice to have money.
#28
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,369
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18467 Post(s)
Liked 15,730 Times
in
7,393 Posts
I spent the first month of 2023 is a hospital and had heart surgery along with other procedures. Probably a week or more of that month was spent in the ICU. I then spent two months in a rehab facility. My relatively minimal out-of-pocket costs, while not something I was happy about paying, were no burden whatsoever, especially since I got paid full salary and benefits for the entire five months I was away from work. (I could have stayed out another month before going on long term disability, but I was bored.)
One of the major sources of comfort was knowing that my troubles were not going to materially affect my financial future.
Likes For indyfabz:
#29
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 1,404
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 682 Post(s)
Liked 455 Times
in
339 Posts
Everyone's relationship is unique, but experience has shown me eye opening things. Just because you get the vibes, verbal reassurances, & other accommodating support to live a certain lifestyle does not mean it's what the other person had or had in mind. Some bottle that up forever, others don't & show so with getting out of that relationship.
Likes For choddo:
#30
Super Modest
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 23,493
Bikes: Trek Emonda, Giant Propel, Colnago V3, Co-Motion Supremo, ICE VTX WC
Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10982 Post(s)
Liked 4,652 Times
in
2,138 Posts
Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a yacht big enough to pull up right alongside it.David Lee Roth
__________________
Keep the chain tight!
Likes For Trsnrtr:
#31
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,369
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18467 Post(s)
Liked 15,730 Times
in
7,393 Posts
Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a yacht big enough to pull up right alongside it.David Lee Roth
#32
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,669
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1250 Post(s)
Liked 1,335 Times
in
681 Posts
Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a yacht big enough to pull up right alongside it.David Lee Roth
#34
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,996
Bikes: Colnago, Van Dessel, Factor, Cervelo, Ritchey
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3978 Post(s)
Liked 7,422 Times
in
2,986 Posts
I think some posters are conflating having wealth and owning things. They aren't the same thing, and they don't have to be linked.
Likes For tomato coupe:
#35
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bastrop Texas
Posts: 4,515
Bikes: Univega, Peu P6, Peu PR-10, Ted Williams, Peu UO-8, Peu UO-18 Mixte, Peu Dolomites
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 983 Post(s)
Liked 1,650 Times
in
1,060 Posts
Yep... A high paying job is still just a relative status. The number of figures on your income does not reflect how rich you are. Like you I too consider myself immensely rich... Ha
__________________
No matter where you're at... There you are... Δf:=f(1/2)-f(-1/2)
No matter where you're at... There you are... Δf:=f(1/2)-f(-1/2)
#36
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 8,586
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4482 Post(s)
Liked 4,953 Times
in
3,062 Posts
Everyone's relationship is unique, but experience has shown me eye opening things. Just because you get the vibes, verbal reassurances, & other accommodating support to live a certain lifestyle does not mean it's what the other person had or had in mind. Some bottle that up forever, others don't & show so with getting out of that relationship.
#37
The Wheezing Geezer
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Española, NM
Posts: 1,071
Bikes: 1976 Fredo Speciale, Rivendell Clem Smith Jr., Libertas mixte
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 415 Post(s)
Liked 950 Times
in
456 Posts
Do we have a cyclist member here who really would rather cry in a limousine than laugh on a bicycle?
Remarkable!
Being poor keeps me grounded, too. At least I think it does.
Remarkable!
Being poor keeps me grounded, too. At least I think it does.
Likes For choddo:
#39
Method to My Madness
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 3,729
Bikes: Trek FX 2, Cannondale Synapse x2, Cannondale CAAD4, Santa Cruz Stigmata 3
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1991 Post(s)
Liked 1,503 Times
in
1,042 Posts
Indeed. I saw a bloke drive his new Range Rover into his newly rebuilt house the other day and he was a miserable **** because he *****ed and moaned at us about fixing a puncture on the edge of his drive. On a narrow country road.
Plenty of cash, no idea how to enjoy life.
Plenty of cash, no idea how to enjoy life.
There was momentary schadenfreude at hearing about that "bloke drive his new Range Rover into his newly rebuilt house ..." until I realized you were in the UK and did not mean that the bloke had crashed his new Range Rover into his newly rebuilt house.
Likes For SoSmellyAir:
#40
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 1,404
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 682 Post(s)
Liked 455 Times
in
339 Posts
That is miserable indeed.
There was momentary schadenfreude at hearing about that "bloke drive his new Range Rover into his newly rebuilt house ..." until I realized you were in the UK and did not mean that the bloke had crashed his new Range Rover into his newly rebuilt house.
There was momentary schadenfreude at hearing about that "bloke drive his new Range Rover into his newly rebuilt house ..." until I realized you were in the UK and did not mean that the bloke had crashed his new Range Rover into his newly rebuilt house.
#41
Method to My Madness
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 3,729
Bikes: Trek FX 2, Cannondale Synapse x2, Cannondale CAAD4, Santa Cruz Stigmata 3
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1991 Post(s)
Liked 1,503 Times
in
1,042 Posts
#42
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2022
Location: USA - Southwest PA
Posts: 3,154
Bikes: Cannondale - Gary Fisher - Giant - Litespeed - Schwinn Paramount - Schwinn (lugged steel) - Trek OCLV
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1424 Post(s)
Liked 1,940 Times
in
1,114 Posts
‘Anyone who says money can’t buy happiness doesn’t know where to shop’
Likes For t2p:
#43
Grupetto Bob
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 6,271
Bikes: Bikey McBike Face
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2611 Post(s)
Liked 5,735 Times
in
2,954 Posts
One phrase that has always stuck with me is from the Stoic philosopher, Seneca, who said, “You are only as poor as your desires”. To paraphrase, “The more you desire, the more poor your spirit.” This runs directly into conflict with the ad firms on Madison Avenue constantly telling us we are not worthwhile unless we have the latest, most expensive and greatest. Am sure there are many similar phrases.
__________________
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Likes For rsbob:
#44
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: NorCal
Posts: 542
Bikes: Santa Cruz Blur 4 TR, Canyon Endurace cf sl, Canyon Ultimate cf slx, Canyon Strive enduro, Canyon Grizl sl8
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 232 Post(s)
Liked 941 Times
in
370 Posts
I'm of the opinion that, below a certain threshold, money does bring some happiness. When I was dirt poor and didn't even have enough money to buy tires for my $100 used road bike, I was generally unhappy. I was always worried that I'd lose my crappy job, or that my crappy car might have some major mechanical problem. I'm solidly middle class at this point, but far from what I consider "wealthy." I'm much happier that I have a sense of financial security and that I'm not having to get by on barely-serviceable junk.
I don't really care about the status symbol stuff, but I do splurge a bit into my hobbies. I've got a quiver of decently nice bikes that cover all the different disciplines that I want to ride. They're not just to look at, the memories and experiences I've had through cycling, are irreplaceable. I feel they all strike a good balance between performance and cost, I wouldn't be able to support my hobby if I only allowed myself to own "halo" bikes. I do recognize that there is probably a limit to how much happiness you can buy. At a certain point, I think our basic desires are met and anything more is just raising the threshold for our "normal."
I don't really care about the status symbol stuff, but I do splurge a bit into my hobbies. I've got a quiver of decently nice bikes that cover all the different disciplines that I want to ride. They're not just to look at, the memories and experiences I've had through cycling, are irreplaceable. I feel they all strike a good balance between performance and cost, I wouldn't be able to support my hobby if I only allowed myself to own "halo" bikes. I do recognize that there is probably a limit to how much happiness you can buy. At a certain point, I think our basic desires are met and anything more is just raising the threshold for our "normal."
#45
Grupetto Bob
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 6,271
Bikes: Bikey McBike Face
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2611 Post(s)
Liked 5,735 Times
in
2,954 Posts
I rode a Schwinn Varsity from 1970 through the early 80s and used it as my commuter bike, mostly. During that time, I sold plasma so I could eat, dug ditches by hand for a irrigation company, mucked out horse stalls, tree planted in Oregon, worked in a saw mill and as a short order cook. I have come a long way from those days, and they taught me to appreciate what I have, It’s never the best or the newest, but I have paid the stupid tax too many times, buying cheap and having it break and then having to pay more. My wife had a similar adulthood as she paid her way through college. Like Sierra-rider, I don’t for one minute take for granted and feel very fortunate.
As a small way of giving back, I volunteer at a free county health clinic for the indigent and those who work at minimum wage jobs but cannot afford medical care. I see in many of the patients, work histories similar to mine, but I was fortunate enough to get out and up. I can appreciate their struggles, their injuries and their desire just to feel whole.
As a small way of giving back, I volunteer at a free county health clinic for the indigent and those who work at minimum wage jobs but cannot afford medical care. I see in many of the patients, work histories similar to mine, but I was fortunate enough to get out and up. I can appreciate their struggles, their injuries and their desire just to feel whole.
__________________
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Likes For rsbob:
#46
Method to My Madness
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 3,729
Bikes: Trek FX 2, Cannondale Synapse x2, Cannondale CAAD4, Santa Cruz Stigmata 3
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1991 Post(s)
Liked 1,503 Times
in
1,042 Posts
Madison Avenue was only the Mad Men days. Now advertising firms are everywhere.
Likes For SoSmellyAir:
#49
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,977
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7053 Post(s)
Liked 11,106 Times
in
4,742 Posts
I've never had a particularly high paying job and I was raised to try to stay within my means
That being said, I have always WANTED the latest tech, be it in my love for home audio, photography or cycling.
As such, my cameras are all at least 11 years old, my bike is a 2010 Specialized Tricross Comp and my audio equipment is my smartphone and headphones.
Now, at 63 years old, I realize that I really have enjoyed the stuff 8 have. I am not a fast rider, never have been. I love riding the bike I have. I have won awards and sold photos taken with my 12 year old Nikon D7000s and love listening to my music.
All that that doesn't mean that I still don't WANT the newest fabulous tech.
I spend a lot of time sighing and wanting to run the lottery😁
More's the pity😁
That being said, I have always WANTED the latest tech, be it in my love for home audio, photography or cycling.
As such, my cameras are all at least 11 years old, my bike is a 2010 Specialized Tricross Comp and my audio equipment is my smartphone and headphones.
Now, at 63 years old, I realize that I really have enjoyed the stuff 8 have. I am not a fast rider, never have been. I love riding the bike I have. I have won awards and sold photos taken with my 12 year old Nikon D7000s and love listening to my music.
All that that doesn't mean that I still don't WANT the newest fabulous tech.
I spend a lot of time sighing and wanting to run the lottery😁
More's the pity😁
Is being "grounded" simply a state of material contentment?
Likes For Koyote:
#50
Grupetto Bob
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 6,271
Bikes: Bikey McBike Face
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2611 Post(s)
Liked 5,735 Times
in
2,954 Posts
__________________
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Likes For rsbob: