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Old 02-28-22, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hubcyclist
No, but it's prob better advice than enabling someone to spend thousands of dollars, probably unnecessarily, for a fleeting feeling of satisfaction. One of the problem with serious hobbyist forums is that everyone is quick to just jump on spending money as a route to happiness, whether it's chasing a certain sound with guitars, getting a better lens in photography, etc. And often frivolous spending is encouraged without regarding to whether one should spend. Of course it's up to each individual to determine what they can spend within their means. But yeah, train more is better advice than blow your money on wheels for a small improvement in time or whatever feeling they're chasing until someone needs their next 'fix' with a new piece of gear.
My wheelset was a great upgrade with noticeable benefits and it pays off every time I ride. I'd say a wheelset is one of the best upgrades a cyclist can make to their bike. And yeah, no one asked about training.
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Originally Posted by hubcyclist
No, but it's prob better advice than enabling someone to spend thousands of dollars, probably unnecessarily, for a fleeting feeling of satisfaction.
So, if we don't "enable" the OP, he won't be able to buy new wheels? I feel so ... powerful.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
So, if we don't "enable" the OP, he won't be able to buy new wheels? I feel so ... powerful.
Heh heh, yes, maybe kosmo886's credit card company would post in this thread and ask us if it should authorize a $3K charge for a new wheelset.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Stop the sanctimonious BS. If someone is asking advice on getting faster, "train" is a fantastic answer. If they're asking about nice wheelsets, "train" is neither here nor there and is nothing more than a Johnny Lunchpail (RIP pcad) sour grapes response.

Also,
if your wheelsets only offer fleeting satisfaction, you must not be doing it right and maybe you shouldn't be giving wheelset advice. 10k miles later, I'm still happy and thankful every time I go for a spin on my current wheels - they were a fantastic upgrade.
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My wheelset was a great upgrade with noticeable benefits and it pays off every time I ride. I'd say a wheelset is one of the best upgrades a cyclist can make to their bike. And yeah, no one asked about training.
I've had my nice (which means expensive) wheels around 5 years now. They still make me happy every time I ride them. I don't know or care what they save me on a 40k, I'm a sprinter. I'm faster on them when I want to be, and I enjoy better ride quality from them always.
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for 3k you could buy 6 pairs of super team wheels. Those should last you until the end of time.

Quantity over Quality.
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Originally Posted by kosmo886
What are the best road bike wheels these days? Looking for aero of some sort. Willing to spend into the 3k range, so price shouldn’t be too much of a factor.
Nobody seems to have paid any attention to how you phrased the question.

Chris King makes a number of good wheels, ranging from about $1200 to $3K.

https://chrisking.com/collections/wheels

My humble aluminum ones are in the avatar.
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
Nobody seems to have paid any attention to how you phrased the question.

Chris King makes a number of good wheels, ranging from about $1200 to $3K.

https://chrisking.com/collections/wheels

My humble aluminum ones are in the avatar.
i did. On his other nearly identical thread

Not much better than Yoeleo 50-60 mm with DT 240 at $1200

I bought Farsports 55mm S6 Ventoux S recently for $1700. Best value in a very, very fast wheel, in my opinion

Reynolds makes very good and very good value wheels, too. Swissside is another.....fast and reasonable. Good hubs unlike Zipp garbage hubs
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I would also be remiss not mentioning https://novemberbicycles.com
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
for 3k you could buy 6 pairs of super team wheels. Those should last you until the end of time.

Quantity over Quality.
Ever heard the expression "Penny wise, pound foolish"?
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Ever heard the expression "Penny wise, pound foolish"?

nope.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Ever heard the expression "Penny wise, pound foolish"?
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nope.
It means that cheap s**t is false economy.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
It means that cheap s**t is false economy.
Fair enough, mine have lasted 6,000 no issues. Just offering another idea.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
It means that cheap s**t is false economy.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

By all economical measures, a $30,000 car is economically better than a $100,000 car. But, it's not nearly as enjoyable.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Fair enough, mine have lasted 6,000 no issues. Just offering another idea.
Mine have lasted billions and billions, like Carl Sagan.
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Originally Posted by hubcyclist
No, but it's prob better advice than enabling someone to spend thousands of dollars, probably unnecessarily, for a fleeting feeling of satisfaction. One of the problem with serious hobbyist forums is that everyone is quick to just jump on spending money as a route to happiness, whether it's chasing a certain sound with guitars, getting a better lens in photography, etc. And often frivolous spending is encouraged without regarding to whether one should spend. Of course it's up to each individual to determine what they can spend within their means. But yeah, train more is better advice than blow your money on wheels for a small improvement in time or whatever feeling they're chasing until someone needs their next 'fix' with a new piece of gear.
That's what hobbies are all about. Being a bit frivolous as a welcome escape from the grind of everyday life. That's exactly why people have nice bikes, guitars, photo gear etc, etc. A high-end wheelset is just about the best upgrade you can make to your bike. Training advice is a totally different discussion and not mutually exclusive.
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Originally Posted by hubcyclist
No, but it's prob better advice than enabling someone to spend thousands of dollars, probably unnecessarily, for a fleeting feeling of satisfaction. One of the problem with serious hobbyist forums is that everyone is quick to just jump on spending money as a route to happiness, whether it's chasing a certain sound with guitars, getting a better lens in photography, etc. And often frivolous spending is encouraged without regarding to whether one should spend. Of course it's up to each individual to determine what they can spend within their means. But yeah, train more is better advice than blow your money on wheels for a small improvement in time or whatever feeling they're chasing until someone needs their next 'fix' with a new piece of gear.
Dude - what are you, some little kid? I see that you went crying for help against us "Freds" in another subforum because your unsolicited and poorly thought-out advice wasn't well received. Grow a pair.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Dude - what are you, some little kid? I see that you went crying for help against us "Freds" in another subforum because your unsolicited and poorly thought-out advice wasn't well received. Grow a pair.
let's cut it out. Yeah, I made a snarky remark in the racing forum. But I'm not a troll and I don't hang around to stoke the flames. I have my opinions and folks have theirs. You're not convincing me I'm wrong and there's nothing I can do to change anyone else's minds on the matter. Drop it
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Originally Posted by hubcyclist
let's cut it out. Yeah, I made a snarky remark in the racing forum. But I'm not a troll and I don't hang around to stoke the flames. I have my opinions and folks have theirs. You're not convincing me I'm wrong and there's nothing I can do to change anyone else's minds on the matter. Drop it
trying to high road it after a failed attempt at recruiting others (an infractionable offense, btw) - spare me. Yeah, please - don't hang around. Ta ta.
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Hayes has some Reynolds wheelsets on closeout, but nothing for a road/gravel.
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Originally Posted by hubcyclist
let's cut it out. Yeah, I made a snarky remark in the racing forum. But I'm not a troll and I don't hang around to stoke the flames. I have my opinions and folks have theirs. You're not convincing me I'm wrong and there's nothing I can do to change anyone else's minds on the matter. Drop it
You went into the racing forum asking people to back you up because you were losing a thread???
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Maybe he was looking for a hype man. Even if I agreed with his argument, that's crossing the line.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

By all economical measures, a $30,000 car is economically better than a $100,000 car. But, it's not nearly as enjoyable.
I’m pretty certain after some extended time frame a 100k EV becomes more economical than a Camry
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
You went into the racing forum asking people to back you up because you were losing a thread???
At least he didn't go to a diesel truck forum looking for backup.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
At least he didn't go to a diesel truck forum looking for backup.
You go there looking for a pickup.


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Originally Posted by phrantic09
I’m pretty certain after some extended time frame a 100k EV becomes more economical than a Camry
No clue. Have never owned a Camry. 😜
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