Collectible fixed gear boom bikes
08-30-18, 04:49 PM
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You never know what the collectibles market will do 20 or 30 years from now.
In the 1960s and '70s, air cooled Volkswagens were mostly considered disposable junk. Some counterculture groups and some lower-class families liked them for their affordability and ease of maintenance, but nobody ever considered them potentially collectible, aside from the really early models, the rare notchbacks, and maybe the Things and Karmann-Ghias. By the 1980s, all "old" VWs had gained a cult following and started increasing in value. Today, values have skyrocketed for anything in good condition, especially anything pre-1968, or with a convertible top.
If you'd told my dad in 1972 that within 40 years his bus* would be worth several times its new price, as long as he kept it in decent, running condition, he'd have thought you're crazy.
* The VW Transporter in which he was hauling our family around, because it was all he could afford.
In the 1960s and '70s, air cooled Volkswagens were mostly considered disposable junk. Some counterculture groups and some lower-class families liked them for their affordability and ease of maintenance, but nobody ever considered them potentially collectible, aside from the really early models, the rare notchbacks, and maybe the Things and Karmann-Ghias. By the 1980s, all "old" VWs had gained a cult following and started increasing in value. Today, values have skyrocketed for anything in good condition, especially anything pre-1968, or with a convertible top.
If you'd told my dad in 1972 that within 40 years his bus* would be worth several times its new price, as long as he kept it in decent, running condition, he'd have thought you're crazy.
* The VW Transporter in which he was hauling our family around, because it was all he could afford.
08-30-18, 06:10 PM
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. Sounds like another vote for IRO! I am not real familiar with, will need to do some searching, thanks.
I saw a little bus truck bed type (don't know models) that needed resto a year or so ago just sitting and getting older. I made contact, but guy was not even interested in talking about selling. They do have a big following. The fixed gear group is a bit of a counterculture in itself. 
You never know what the collectibles market will do 20 or 30 years from now.
In the 1960s and '70s, air cooled Volkswagens were mostly considered disposable junk. Some counterculture groups and some lower-class families liked them for their affordability and ease of maintenance, but nobody ever considered them potentially collectible, aside from the really early models, the rare notchbacks, and maybe the Things and Karmann-Ghias. By the 1980s, all "old" VWs had gained a cult following and started increasing in value. Today, values have skyrocketed for anything in good condition, especially anything pre-1968, or with a convertible top.
If you'd told my dad in 1972 that within 40 years his bus* would be worth several times its new price, as long as he kept it in decent, running condition, he'd have thought you're crazy.
* The VW Transporter in which he was hauling our family around, because it was all he could afford.
In the 1960s and '70s, air cooled Volkswagens were mostly considered disposable junk. Some counterculture groups and some lower-class families liked them for their affordability and ease of maintenance, but nobody ever considered them potentially collectible, aside from the really early models, the rare notchbacks, and maybe the Things and Karmann-Ghias. By the 1980s, all "old" VWs had gained a cult following and started increasing in value. Today, values have skyrocketed for anything in good condition, especially anything pre-1968, or with a convertible top.
If you'd told my dad in 1972 that within 40 years his bus* would be worth several times its new price, as long as he kept it in decent, running condition, he'd have thought you're crazy.
* The VW Transporter in which he was hauling our family around, because it was all he could afford.
08-30-18, 09:02 PM
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That's called a Kombi. They were offered in single cab and double cab versions, but not a whole lot were sold in the U.S. They are very collectible, with prices going unbelievably high lately. I wouldn't give my right thumb for one, but probably my left pinky finger, or any three toes.
08-31-18, 12:43 PM
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You never know what the collectibles market will do 20 or 30 years from now.
In the 1960s and '70s, air cooled Volkswagens were mostly considered disposable junk. Some counterculture groups and some lower-class families liked them for their affordability and ease of maintenance, but nobody ever considered them potentially collectible, aside from the really early models, the rare notchbacks, and maybe the Things and Karmann-Ghias. By the 1980s, all "old" VWs had gained a cult following and started increasing in value. Today, values have skyrocketed for anything in good condition, especially anything pre-1968, or with a convertible top.
If you'd told my dad in 1972 that within 40 years his bus* would be worth several times its new price, as long as he kept it in decent, running condition, he'd have thought you're crazy.
* The VW Transporter in which he was hauling our family around, because it was all he could afford.
In the 1960s and '70s, air cooled Volkswagens were mostly considered disposable junk. Some counterculture groups and some lower-class families liked them for their affordability and ease of maintenance, but nobody ever considered them potentially collectible, aside from the really early models, the rare notchbacks, and maybe the Things and Karmann-Ghias. By the 1980s, all "old" VWs had gained a cult following and started increasing in value. Today, values have skyrocketed for anything in good condition, especially anything pre-1968, or with a convertible top.
If you'd told my dad in 1972 that within 40 years his bus* would be worth several times its new price, as long as he kept it in decent, running condition, he'd have thought you're crazy.
* The VW Transporter in which he was hauling our family around, because it was all he could afford.
Bikes will never increase in value enough for me to deal with storing them in the hopes they will turn a profit on the used market. I buy bikes that I want to ride, if they happen to become collectible then that's cool too.
08-31-18, 08:14 PM
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Plus it wasn't just a rattle can job, Ernesto made a top range bike for him and then a more practical flat bar he could cruise around on at his summer home.
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Well 'Nago is an Italian brand so it makes some sense. Better than that silly ASI "Breezer" the new one got. It was a bit garish I will admit but I would love to own something like that. Plus it now resides in the Colnago Museeum (spelled that way on purpose, if you don't get it learn you some historei) so all can see it.
Plus it wasn't just a rattle can job, Ernesto made a top range bike for him and then a more practical flat bar he could cruise around on at his summer home.
Plus it wasn't just a rattle can job, Ernesto made a top range bike for him and then a more practical flat bar he could cruise around on at his summer home.
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One can debate just about anything, but Colnago and SE pimp bikes. 
Cinelli is artsy driven but similar. Hand made quality is a plus but branding and popularity are a major part. Think about Jordan shoes made in sweat shops or whereever. Pretty much any Nike shoe. It's the "Swoosh" on your feet.
There are countless quality Italian and other builders bikes that people won't pay half the price for of a well known bike.
Cinelli is artsy driven but similar. Hand made quality is a plus but branding and popularity are a major part. Think about Jordan shoes made in sweat shops or whereever. Pretty much any Nike shoe. It's the "Swoosh" on your feet.There are countless quality Italian and other builders bikes that people won't pay half the price for of a well known bike.
09-01-18, 12:57 PM
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theres a sucker born every minute. just like se, the only ppl who are still buying those "schwinns" you see at target/walmart are ones who have literally zero knowledge of bicycles outside of the fact that they rode a schwinn growing up in the 70s.
09-01-18, 08:52 PM
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Johan Museeuw from the Mapei team, won a ton of races back in the 90s on crabons Colnagos. You might remember him from such funky sunglasses as these: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nn_MUSEEUW.jpg
True on the Futura/Stash stuff but at the very least it was a super high end bike with Gilco tubes and was a bit more unique, Handmade, hand painted works of art rather than just a logo on a frame. Though I don't remember much more from them on that similar front and I would happily own one of those bikes in a heartbeat whereas a ASI SE, not as much.
True on the Futura/Stash stuff but at the very least it was a super high end bike with Gilco tubes and was a bit more unique, Handmade, hand painted works of art rather than just a logo on a frame. Though I don't remember much more from them on that similar front and I would happily own one of those bikes in a heartbeat whereas a ASI SE, not as much.
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09-01-18, 09:31 PM
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I don't know how this became a Colnago is the best thread (we all know Colnago is collectible and expensive) and why no one has pics of their 00s fixed gears on the fixed/SS section? but that was hope of this thread. 
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@seau grateau 
and @TMonk
There is a CL listing a couple hours south of me for an IRO. Seems reasonable considering it appears it may be the Reynolds 631 (finally did some research).
Not mine but here's the pic and link. https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/d/...685946463.html
and @TMonkThere is a CL listing a couple hours south of me for an IRO. Seems reasonable considering it appears it may be the Reynolds 631 (finally did some research).
Not mine but here's the pic and link. https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/d/...685946463.html
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You ever thought about KHS Flite 100 or its dearly departed cousin Aero Track, as "Collectible fixed gear boom bikes"? They seem to have a pretty big following among vintage-ish tarck bike fanbois. IIRC they 1st came out in the 90's - but at least the Flite 100 has hung in there through the oughts to the present day despite the low-rent copy from Bikedirect being pushed by its shills as "the exact same bike" and stealing some of its thunder.
And...since you want pics, and unlike the haters here you like the old DC Fixed Ripper, considering we also have an off-road/gravel fixed thread going - maybe I can kill two birds with one stone. Here is mine, which ended its time with me as a fixed gear mountain bike that I rode at all our local MTB parks, even ocasionally on some of the more advanced, and what passes for technical here, trails with absolutely zero problems. In fact, one of the better (wilder?) MTB riders here back then went so nuts over what I was doing that he talked me into selling it to him at the trailhead, and last time I saw him on it was riding it like a maniac...
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Yeah I've had enough of the Colnago is/isn't the greatest bike ever discussion, myself.
You ever thought about KHS Flite 100 or its dearly departed cousin Aero Track, as "Collectible fixed gear boom bikes"? They seem to have a pretty big following among vintage-ish tarck bike fanbois. IIRC they 1st came out in the 90's - but at least the Flite 100 has hung in there through the oughts to the present day despite the low-rent copy from Bikedirect being pushed by its shills as "the exact same bike" and stealing some of its thunder.
And...since you want pics, and unlike the haters here you like the old DC Fixed Ripper, considering we also have an off-road/gravel fixed thread going - maybe I can kill two birds with one stone. Here is mine, which ended its time with me as a fixed gear mountain bike that I rode at all our local MTB parks, even ocasionally on some of the more advanced, and what passes for technical here, trails with absolutely zero problems. In fact, one of the better (wilder?) MTB riders here back then went so nuts over what I was doing that he talked me into selling it to him at the trailhead, and last time I saw him on it was riding it like a maniac...
You ever thought about KHS Flite 100 or its dearly departed cousin Aero Track, as "Collectible fixed gear boom bikes"? They seem to have a pretty big following among vintage-ish tarck bike fanbois. IIRC they 1st came out in the 90's - but at least the Flite 100 has hung in there through the oughts to the present day despite the low-rent copy from Bikedirect being pushed by its shills as "the exact same bike" and stealing some of its thunder.
And...since you want pics, and unlike the haters here you like the old DC Fixed Ripper, considering we also have an off-road/gravel fixed thread going - maybe I can kill two birds with one stone. Here is mine, which ended its time with me as a fixed gear mountain bike that I rode at all our local MTB parks, even ocasionally on some of the more advanced, and what passes for technical here, trails with absolutely zero problems. In fact, one of the better (wilder?) MTB riders here back then went so nuts over what I was doing that he talked me into selling it to him at the trailhead, and last time I saw him on it was riding it like a maniac...
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@seau grateau and @TMonk
There is a CL listing a couple hours south of me for an IRO. Seems reasonable considering it appears it may be the Reynolds 631 (finally did some research).
Not mine but here's the pic and link. https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/d/...685946463.html
and @TMonkThere is a CL listing a couple hours south of me for an IRO. Seems reasonable considering it appears it may be the Reynolds 631 (finally did some research).
Not mine but here's the pic and link. https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/d/...685946463.html
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You never know what the collectibles market will do 20 or 30 years from now.
In the 1960s and '70s, air cooled Volkswagens were mostly considered disposable junk. Some counterculture groups and some lower-class families liked them for their affordability and ease of maintenance, but nobody ever considered them potentially collectible, aside from the really early models, the rare notchbacks, and maybe the Things and Karmann-Ghias. By the 1980s, all "old" VWs had gained a cult following and started increasing in value. Today, values have skyrocketed for anything in good condition, especially anything pre-1968, or with a convertible top.
If you'd told my dad in 1972 that within 40 years his bus* would be worth several times its new price, as long as he kept it in decent, running condition, he'd have thought you're crazy.
* The VW Transporter in which he was hauling our family around, because it was all he could afford.
In the 1960s and '70s, air cooled Volkswagens were mostly considered disposable junk. Some counterculture groups and some lower-class families liked them for their affordability and ease of maintenance, but nobody ever considered them potentially collectible, aside from the really early models, the rare notchbacks, and maybe the Things and Karmann-Ghias. By the 1980s, all "old" VWs had gained a cult following and started increasing in value. Today, values have skyrocketed for anything in good condition, especially anything pre-1968, or with a convertible top.
If you'd told my dad in 1972 that within 40 years his bus* would be worth several times its new price, as long as he kept it in decent, running condition, he'd have thought you're crazy.
* The VW Transporter in which he was hauling our family around, because it was all he could afford.
When I was a kid I understand that the Revox reel to reel decks came for free with the humongous IGN Carousel spot cartridge machine. The IGN is a doorstop now, the Revoxes fetch a king's ransom because Willi Studer made them that good. Legendary. And I waited 30 years from the time I first saw one to own one.
But I'm no judge of single speed road frames because they aren't my thing and I don't collect, I use.
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