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I could respond to this, but I'm not - if we're going to have an A&S discussion, the thread belongs in A&S.
Not here.
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Not here.
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Yeah--C&V really isn't the right place.
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07-29-22, 10:20 AM
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I didn't put it up for discussion. Just for the humor. And C&V people are the only ones on this forum with a sense of humor.
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For the record, many studies - not just this one from Portland - have found very little percentage difference in statistical red-light running of drivers vs. people on bicycles:
https://bikeportland.org/2013/06/25/...dy-finds-89025
And perhaps one of the most important studies on this topic found that most riders will take a red light on a clear intersection to get away from the drivers behind them that can't be trusted:
https://daily.jstor.org/are-cyclists...s-lawbreakers/
Overall, one is more likely to get compliance when good, safe cycling infrastructure exists so riders don't feel obligated to take every opportunity to put distance between them and motorists.
So...poor joke. Also not even "true," as research has already debunked it.
Also, no escaping the A&S now. Now that's funny.
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P.S.: Hmm..."not up for discussion" on a discussion board? Ooh, that's interesting!
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May I point out that if you ride a C & V race bike with the old, less than comfortable brake hoods, you spend far more time in the drops. And if you wear a proper cycling cap with visor you can barely see the green light. Red lights? Where? I never see them. (I make a point of staying out of neighborhoods where they put them at reasonable elevations.)
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Hey, I thought it was funny. But then, I'm weird.
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Color me robot, but I have failed a couple of those tests and have had to request another round - some of the images are vague at best.
But I must say I thought this was an attempt to be humorous, and I think it had a tone or visual that some have missed.
I thought it was funny.
But I must say I thought this was an attempt to be humorous, and I think it had a tone or visual that some have missed.
I thought it was funny.
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And perhaps one of the most important studies on this topic found that most riders will take a red light on a clear intersection to get away from the drivers behind them that can't be trusted:
https://daily.jstor.org/are-cyclists...s-lawbreakers/
I do this all the time. An intersection is a great place to get killed on your bike. I only stay if I have to.
https://daily.jstor.org/are-cyclists...s-lawbreakers/
I do this all the time. An intersection is a great place to get killed on your bike. I only stay if I have to.
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But you can always skip to the next test! On a serious note, there are some of us that stop.
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Grant Peterson.
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07-29-22, 01:56 PM
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If a cyclist runs a red light, and no one is there to witness the infraction, does the cyclist make a sound?
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How about this:
"Grant Petersen and John Forester were riding their bikes sans helmets, both ran stop signs and crashed into each other after after being hit by a cement mixer and a city bus, respectively, on streets lacking bike infrastructure. Discuss."
That's got to be worth 20 pages, easy.
"Grant Petersen and John Forester were riding their bikes sans helmets, both ran stop signs and crashed into each other after after being hit by a cement mixer and a city bus, respectively, on streets lacking bike infrastructure. Discuss."
That's got to be worth 20 pages, easy.
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In Oregon we've been able to say "who da ho? Idaho" for the past year and run stop signs.
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How about this:
"Grant Petersen and John Forester were riding their bikes sans helmets, both ran stop signs and crashed into each other after after being hit by a cement mixer and a city bus, respectively, on streets lacking bike infrastructure. Discuss."
That's got to be worth 20 pages, easy.
"Grant Petersen and John Forester were riding their bikes sans helmets, both ran stop signs and crashed into each other after after being hit by a cement mixer and a city bus, respectively, on streets lacking bike infrastructure. Discuss."
That's got to be worth 20 pages, easy.
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