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Old 07-23-22, 01:43 PM
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I don't generally wave at anyone, but I'm an introverted misanthrope - with the exception that I always give a wave and a thumbs up to motorists who cut me slack when I have to change lanes in front of them. I'm trying to condition them to be nice to cyclists.
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Are you serious Larry?
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Originally Posted by M Rose
Oregon adopted the Idaho Stop in 2020 as well. There are 17 states total that use some form
of the “Idaho” Stop Law.
Wow! Good news. I remember an older proposal in OR. It may have been for Portland only. It got shot down.

I live in Philly. Would make total sense here with our narrow streets in many places. Helps you keep ahead of traffic and things flowing better.
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Waving to 'em, heck, how about running a half dozen stop signs and red lights with 'em?

I got behind two off-duty cops on their Harleys here in Queens, then in between them, and then all 3 of us are riding...the way I ride! Slowing at an intersection to check if there's traffic and then rolling through. It was great until we got on long straight part and they dropped me with a wave.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Are you in Idaho?

Last time I toured there was in 2019. I tend to obey local traffic laws strictly when I visit distant communities. I had to laugh at myself after riding around Wallace for a bit when I realized I had been stopping at every stop sign a red light even though there was basically no traffic. (In Idaho you can treat a red light as a yield sign after coming to a complete stop first.)

Wallace used to be known for brothels!

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I'd defer to Larry's expertise in this area. I expect he's had more LEO intercourse than any 10 of the rest of us. Safe to say there will be plenty more in the future so it's good he has a plan.
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Originally Posted by gringomojado
Wallace used to be known for brothels!

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Yep. Served the silver mining workers. A good deal of bike tourism now thank to some trails in the area.

There is a huge remediation site between Lookout Pass and Mullan. There’s actually a pullout site on I-90 where you can stop and view it. There are signs along the Couer d’Alenes Trail between Mulan and Wallace warning you not to disturb the soil. The trail itself is basically a remediation solution. Pave over contaminated ground that the railroad used to haul ore.

Butte, MT is another town where brothels were numerous. That was a big center of copper mining. Still lots of cool architecture there. The last operating brothel on Mercury Street has been preserved as a historic site.

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Old 07-23-22, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by M Rose
Oregon adopted the Idaho Stop in 2020 as well. There are 17 states total that use some form
of the “Idaho” Stop Law.
And California isn't one of them.




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I’m sure this thread is his attempt to drive a nonsensical discussion right into P&R territory.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
In Idaho you can treat a red light as a yield sign after coming to a complete stop first.
I think that means you're treating it like a stop sign, not a yield sign.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
I think that means you're treating it like a stop sign, not a yield sign.
Better description, Thanks. The realization hit me as I was sitting at a red light for at least a minute with no traffic in sight.
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I only waive to Citroen drivers.
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I wave but 3 of my fingers and my thumb for some reason don't come up and my hand turns around and goes backwards.
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Having a law enforcement officer in the family and knowing the dangers the face I wave at all cops. In their very stressful jobs, a little good will goes a long way.

Waved at a sheriff today and got a nice one in return.
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I usually wave to all adults, and especially to any policeman.
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I often ride on the shoulder of a busy highway. I wave kind of as an acknowledgement so they know I'm out there considering they're likely to be the first on scene if anything bad happens.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
most of the force knows me.
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Originally Posted by Ghazmh
Are you serious Larry?
Is that a question you need to ask?
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Originally Posted by Rolla
I do my best to ignore cops completely. No eye contact, no wave, no acknowledgment whatsoever.
Same here. I've been "profiled" a couple times, and it wasn't pleasant. One time it was particularly terrifying. I'm now the total opposite of Larry.... I don't look at them and prefer they don't even notice me.
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Originally Posted by BadFittingBikeBoy
I wave at most every cyclist, jogger, and motorcyclist, but the only cars I wave to are cops. I wave at all cops in hope of getting goodwill with their department so they look the other way if they catch me doing something bad at stopsigns or whatnot. Do any of you wave at cops for similar reasons? Its gotten me out of some scraps, most of the force knows me and waves
They know exactly why you are waving at them, and are probably at risk of ocular injuries from the severe eye-rolls that follow.

In reality, attracting any attention from the man is a bad idea. I have the skin tone that would allow me to get away with it 99 times out of 100, but I don't like to give them the mistaken impression that I wish to have any further interaction with them. Avoiding eye contact or other acknowledgement raises my safe-passing chances to approximately 100 times out of 100.
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Originally Posted by ClydeClydeson
They know exactly why you are waving at them, and are probably at risk of ocular injuries from the severe eye-rolls that follow.

In reality, attracting any attention from the man is a bad idea. I have the skin tone that would allow me to get away with it 99 times out of 100, but I don't like to give them the mistaken impression that I wish to have any further interaction with them. Avoiding eye contact or other acknowledgement raises my safe-passing chances to approximately 100 times out of 100.
When I was younger I had some very silly ideas about the police. I thought that the institution was bad for society, and thus cops are not warranted and should be "othered" or even met with derision in hopes of making them quit their jobs, or something along those lines. My worldview wasn't very consistent and I knew it was BS, but I still thought ACAB. Now I am under the impression that its best for cops and the communities they serve to be in general on friendly terms, for what its worth I get more waves back from cops than I do cyclists. Most wave back.
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@LarrySZ

Cops are people, there are good ones and bad ones. Sadly, as cops the bad ones are in a position to propagate tremendous evil (police brutality, racism, abuse of power, corruption, spousal abuse...) and are usually covered for by other cops. Even the so called 'good' cops are generally silent when they see their colleagues behaving badly, and are often punished for speaking out by the leadership. Sure, some cops are 'good' but it's still unwise to seek unnecessary contact with them. The good cops are the remaining but dwindling fresh flesh on an apple that is rotten to the core.
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Criminals and their enablers hate cops ….. until they need one.
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