Enough with the Gravel Grinder , How about a Pavement Pounder ?
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So these events are for people who don't actually ride gravel?
MMM Gravel Grinder | The ultimate Gravel Road Race
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"For" people who don't actually ride gravel are not my worlds.
"Used by" people who don't actually ride gravel are my words.
The people who wrote the copy at those two websites don't actually ride gravel. If they did they wouldn't use the term "Gravel grinder."
I've never experienced anyone who rides gravel actually using the term.
-Tim-
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I’ve reached the point where I hate the word “gravel” when utilized in connection with cycling. Hate, hate, hate. Just so sick of it.
The other day I violated all the laws of cycling physics by riding my road cycling bicycle on a stretch of gravel. I’m surprised it didn’t asplode.
The other day I violated all the laws of cycling physics by riding my road cycling bicycle on a stretch of gravel. I’m surprised it didn’t asplode.
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"For" people who don't actually ride gravel are not my worlds.
"Used by" people who don't actually ride gravel are my words.
The people who wrote the copy at those two websites don't actually ride gravel. If they did they wouldn't use the term "Gravel grinder."
I've never experienced anyone who rides gravel actually using the term.
-Tim-
"Used by" people who don't actually ride gravel are my words.
The people who wrote the copy at those two websites don't actually ride gravel. If they did they wouldn't use the term "Gravel grinder."
I've never experienced anyone who rides gravel actually using the term.
-Tim-
I’ve reached the point where I hate the word “gravel” when utilized in connection with cycling. Hate, hate, hate. Just so sick of it.
The other day I violated all the laws of cycling physics by riding my road cycling bicycle on a stretch of gravel. I’m surprised it didn’t asplode.
The other day I violated all the laws of cycling physics by riding my road cycling bicycle on a stretch of gravel. I’m surprised it didn’t asplode.
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Do you have some sort of idea what makes a bike a "Pavement Pounder"? What are the defining characteristics in your mind?
To me, the bikes above that you have referenced look like hybrid bikes (the flat bars) and a gravel bike. Honestly, pavement pounder makes me think of a traditional cruiser style bike because they are big and heavy and take a lot of work to pedal fast, haha.
To me, the bikes above that you have referenced look like hybrid bikes (the flat bars) and a gravel bike. Honestly, pavement pounder makes me think of a traditional cruiser style bike because they are big and heavy and take a lot of work to pedal fast, haha.
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"For" people who don't actually ride gravel are not my worlds.
"Used by" people who don't actually ride gravel are my words.
The people who wrote the copy at those two websites don't actually ride gravel. If they did they wouldn't use the term "Gravel grinder."
I've never experienced anyone who rides gravel actually using the term.
-Tim-
"Used by" people who don't actually ride gravel are my words.
The people who wrote the copy at those two websites don't actually ride gravel. If they did they wouldn't use the term "Gravel grinder."
I've never experienced anyone who rides gravel actually using the term.
-Tim-
As far as website designer/editors, they usually copy and paste whatever text is given to them. Unless it's a WordPress type website where people that work for the organization can add text, which is either terms they actually use or they simply copy and paste, too.
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Pavement pounder = something in between a gravel bike and endurance road bike? Specialization, n+1, noooooo!!!
I'm going to have a pavement pounder in a little over a month. I'm moving to a place without gravel roads but with a longer commute; the gravel bike is probably going to turn into a commuter for tired days when I don't feel like riding the single speed.
I'm going to have a pavement pounder in a little over a month. I'm moving to a place without gravel roads but with a longer commute; the gravel bike is probably going to turn into a commuter for tired days when I don't feel like riding the single speed.
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Pavement pounder = something in between a gravel bike and endurance road bike? Specialization, n+1, noooooo!!!
I'm going to have a pavement pounder in a little over a month. I'm moving to a place without gravel roads but with a longer commute; the gravel bike is probably going to turn into a commuter for tired days when I don't feel like riding the single speed.
I'm going to have a pavement pounder in a little over a month. I'm moving to a place without gravel roads but with a longer commute; the gravel bike is probably going to turn into a commuter for tired days when I don't feel like riding the single speed.
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Ummm, something like this?
Pavement Pounder
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I dislike the name Gravel Grinder but like the term Adventure Bike. Yet, I didn't want either. I had a bike built for just urban riding. This bike will never touch gravel or for that matter ever leave the city, yet it comes with 42mm tires. Flat bar for urban riding. Dura Ace derailleurs, XTR disc brakes, White Industry hubs and crank and Stan's Crest carbon rims. In essence a Pavement Pounder.
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I dislike the name Gravel Grinder but like the term Adventure Bike. Yet, I didn't want either. I had a bike built for just urban riding. This bike will never touch gravel or for that matter ever leave the city, yet it comes with 42mm tires. Flat bar for urban riding. Dura Ace derailleurs, XTR disc brakes, White Industry hubs and crank and Stan's Crest carbon rims. In essence a Pavement Pounder.
I'll bet those 42mm tires roll great on city streets. Coincidentally, the original 700C tire size translates to something like a 700x39 in todays nomenclature. Interesting how things have basically come full circle. Maybe those guys knew a thing or two back in the day? Personally, after running 700x52 tires on dirt roads for years on one of my rides, I'd love to see a frame with clearance for 29er tires and more road like geometry. I guess it could be a pavement pounder with something like Schwalbe Big Apples, but I'd be running it on gravel and dirt.
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According to some, flat bars make the gorgeous burgundy Winter posted above an "Urban gravel" bike.
FWIW, "Gravel Grinder" refers to a type of ride, not a type of bike.
-Tim-
FWIW, "Gravel Grinder" refers to a type of ride, not a type of bike.
-Tim-
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"Pavement pounder" takes me back to the early, very stiff aluminum frames. No thanks.
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"For" people who don't actually ride gravel are not my worlds.
"Used by" people who don't actually ride gravel are my words.
The people who wrote the copy at those two websites don't actually ride gravel. If they did they wouldn't use the term "Gravel grinder."
I've never experienced anyone who rides gravel actually using the term.
-Tim-
"Used by" people who don't actually ride gravel are my words.
The people who wrote the copy at those two websites don't actually ride gravel. If they did they wouldn't use the term "Gravel grinder."
I've never experienced anyone who rides gravel actually using the term.
-Tim-
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Uninitiated? Those who don't actually ride gravel? You mean like Kristen Legun who has podiumed at the Dirty Kanza? She doesn't actually ride gravel?
Kristen Legum:
"Also, gravel creates more rolling resistance than pavement and packed dirt roads. Smaller gears will reduce the actual amount of actual ‘grinding’ you’ll have to do at these gravel grinders, and will keep your knees happier throughout the long day. "
bikeradar.com/advice/fitness-and-training/get-started-with-gravel-grinding/
Kristen Legum:
"Also, gravel creates more rolling resistance than pavement and packed dirt roads. Smaller gears will reduce the actual amount of actual ‘grinding’ you’ll have to do at these gravel grinders, and will keep your knees happier throughout the long day. "
bikeradar.com/advice/fitness-and-training/get-started-with-gravel-grinding/
She is writing a beginner article for a commercial magazine where one would expect to read jargon such as "Gravel grinder." There is nothing wrong with writing for neophytes but we have to recognize it as such...
Bigger volume tires, 38 to 42mm in width, absorb more of the bumps
Small bags that strap to your bike frame make for a convenient place to carry food.
Small bags that strap to your bike frame make for a convenient place to carry food.
At least she used it to describe the ride and not the bike.
-Tim-
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I dislike the name Gravel Grinder but like the term Adventure Bike. Yet, I didn't want either. I had a bike built for just urban riding. This bike will never touch gravel or for that matter ever leave the city, yet it comes with 42mm tires. Flat bar for urban riding. Dura Ace derailleurs, XTR disc brakes, White Industry hubs and crank and Stan's Crest carbon rims. In essence a Pavement Pounder.
Tires look like Snoqualmie Pass ? They're size 700x44 on Rene Herse Cycles .
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...oqualmie-pass/
What's the bike geometry ; HT & ST angle , CS length , BB drop ?
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Legan, not Legum.
She is writing a beginner article for a commercial magazine where one would expect to read jargon such as "Gravel grinder." There is nothing wrong with writing for neophytes but we have to recognize it as such...
This is a beginner article and I doubt Ms Legan would use the phrase "Gravel Grinder" in conversation with peers in real life. I've never heard gravel riders use the phrase in conversation.
At least she used it to describe the ride and not the bike.
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She is writing a beginner article for a commercial magazine where one would expect to read jargon such as "Gravel grinder." There is nothing wrong with writing for neophytes but we have to recognize it as such...
This is a beginner article and I doubt Ms Legan would use the phrase "Gravel Grinder" in conversation with peers in real life. I've never heard gravel riders use the phrase in conversation.
At least she used it to describe the ride and not the bike.
-Tim-
Sadly, I suspect you are serious.
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Seemed to tweak enough people that I went with it.
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If I had more space I would absolutely enjoy owning this. As it is I have a hard tail XC 29er that is my all rounder Urban bomber, winter machine, single track machine, and I've had alot of fun with it in the Rockies. Would love to have a dedicated Urban 29er, it's really great on rainy days.
Just remember to be courteous to pedestrians and the surroundings.
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I used to say "No one that actually lives in Chicago calls it 'Chi-Town'!", except that now many people do. I suspect the same is true with "Gravel Grinder", which is now clearly a type of ride AND a type of bike. Can't fight it--the battle is over.
I do find it strange that the people who are most likely to call gravel "trend" or "just marketing" live in places without a lot of nice gravel to ride. For instance, you'll see British or European cycling press bemoaning the rise of gravel riding, but then they also have to admit that they just don't have that kind of riding in abundance around them.
In the U.S. we've surrendered much of our pavement to cars and smart-phone-addicted drivers, so it was inevitable that cyclists would abandon pavement for the quiet of rural dirt paths, gravel roads, fire roads, etc.
But at the end of the day, I just want a road bike that takes wider tires.
I do find it strange that the people who are most likely to call gravel "trend" or "just marketing" live in places without a lot of nice gravel to ride. For instance, you'll see British or European cycling press bemoaning the rise of gravel riding, but then they also have to admit that they just don't have that kind of riding in abundance around them.
In the U.S. we've surrendered much of our pavement to cars and smart-phone-addicted drivers, so it was inevitable that cyclists would abandon pavement for the quiet of rural dirt paths, gravel roads, fire roads, etc.
But at the end of the day, I just want a road bike that takes wider tires.