My other Classic / Vintage Obsession... Sewing Machines.
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The 99 is one of my favourite machines, hand crank models are harder to find on this side of the pond but conversion kits are available and electric models can be retrofitted... my 1948 Singer 99 is now a hand crank.
It is such a smooth running machine and lays down a very nice stitch.
It is such a smooth running machine and lays down a very nice stitch.
Much better with the hand crank if you ask me.
I have one with a motor, but I know which will last the longest, & which is the sweetest: )
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The 99 is one of my favourite machines, hand crank models are harder to find on this side of the pond but conversion kits are available and electric models can be retrofitted... my 1948 Singer 99 is now a hand crank.
It is such a smooth running machine and lays down a very nice stitch.
It is such a smooth running machine and lays down a very nice stitch.
One of my 99s needs the wood refinishing, but mine look to be oak, without the comb joints that yours has.
Yours looks to be a different wood.
Just one of the regional differences I guess. I'm thinking of removing the original 'Shellac' varnish, which is peeling, & simply using a wax polish.
What's your method?
Meanwhile here's a pair of Frister & Rossmanns that recently found their way here: )
(Via ebay for a total of £16.04. What's that in dollars? $20?; )
1895 at rear, 1907 front.
Both fully working, with sweet mechanisms.
The bobbin winder on the oldest (1895) is just an amazing piece of (over?) engineering.
I'm still amazed at the capabilities of these ancient machines.
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The Elna Grasshopper is very cool!
Unusual & little quirky to my eye, but I like them like that. (Bikes also: )
I not getting how it folds up into its case though....
Unusual & little quirky to my eye, but I like them like that. (Bikes also: )
I not getting how it folds up into its case though....
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Oh man. An Elna #1. That is so cool! Though I don't collect sewing machines, at all, I would be tempted to if I found something like that. Might start a whole new obsession.
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Oh my! I can't believe I've stumbled upon this thread. I too have been charmed by vintage sewing machines.
This followed me home one day.
I bought it for $60. It's a very rare 1941 Singer 201-2 because it's a blackside 201. I had no idea what it was besides the fact that it was a 201. I thought the chrome parts were severely tarnished. Little did I know that even some very serious collectors didn't know blackside 201's existed.
The blackside is due to WWII and the metal shortages. Singer switched over to blueing parts (instead of chrome) similar to how firearms are done today. Not all 1941 machines are blackside. So not only do I have a fantastic piece of machinery but also a wonderful piece of history.
It comes in a very nice cabinet (Singer cabinet #42), original to the machine, which doubles as a writing desk. It still has the ink well for fountain pens in that small left side drawer.
When I got the machine, it was frozen. It hadn't been used in 25 years or so. The cabinet also needed help.
So here's pics of before, during and after.
Condition of the finish when I got it vs after cleaning and polishing:
The blackside faceplate next to a chrome plate.
Stripped, stained and finished the cabinet. Used faux cow hide over the original vinyl on the stool for some pizzazz. The stool slides under the desk perfectly.
I use the machine as well. Most recent project was a new tablecloth. A joy to use as always and a great place for my grandpa's old lamp.
And because this is a bike forum (and before adjusting that lovely cheapie seat)
This followed me home one day.
I bought it for $60. It's a very rare 1941 Singer 201-2 because it's a blackside 201. I had no idea what it was besides the fact that it was a 201. I thought the chrome parts were severely tarnished. Little did I know that even some very serious collectors didn't know blackside 201's existed.
The blackside is due to WWII and the metal shortages. Singer switched over to blueing parts (instead of chrome) similar to how firearms are done today. Not all 1941 machines are blackside. So not only do I have a fantastic piece of machinery but also a wonderful piece of history.
It comes in a very nice cabinet (Singer cabinet #42), original to the machine, which doubles as a writing desk. It still has the ink well for fountain pens in that small left side drawer.
When I got the machine, it was frozen. It hadn't been used in 25 years or so. The cabinet also needed help.
So here's pics of before, during and after.
Condition of the finish when I got it vs after cleaning and polishing:
The blackside faceplate next to a chrome plate.
Stripped, stained and finished the cabinet. Used faux cow hide over the original vinyl on the stool for some pizzazz. The stool slides under the desk perfectly.
I use the machine as well. Most recent project was a new tablecloth. A joy to use as always and a great place for my grandpa's old lamp.
And because this is a bike forum (and before adjusting that lovely cheapie seat)
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Another thrift find (same place as the last one). Not priced, but probably less than $150.
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This came through my GF's consignment shop a while back, no one but us wanted it. I still need to clean and oil it.
My best guess after next to no searching is Singer 20. Corrections appreciated. Any idea on year?
Neither of us sew, though I learned once. Plenty of seamstresses on my side of things.
My best guess after next to no searching is Singer 20. Corrections appreciated. Any idea on year?
Neither of us sew, though I learned once. Plenty of seamstresses on my side of things.
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Yep that's one of the high-speed industrial machines, you can even see the sight glass to check for oil flow through the machine (they run in an oil bath). Nice table and the thread holders are on the far left of the table, seems like an unusual spot.
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This came through my GF's consignment shop a while back, no one but us wanted it. I still need to clean and oil it.
My best guess after next to no searching is Singer 20. Corrections appreciated. Any idea on year?
Neither of us sew, though I learned once. Plenty of seamstresses on my side of things.
My best guess after next to no searching is Singer 20. Corrections appreciated. Any idea on year?
Neither of us sew, though I learned once. Plenty of seamstresses on my side of things.
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I can't help much here, but very interested in the results.
There are no websites dedicated to these interests that I can find.
Sorry BF: )
Did you check Comprehensive Singer Serial Number Database
Maybe there is a need for such a dedicated site?? I think so.
Any responses?
Should be some, I'm saying; )
I'm willing to put in the time to sort it.
Online here Other Obsessions. Sewing machines?. ? Bicyclz.com
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That's a children's machine. very cool. See here;
https://www.etsy.com/listing/4772757...FZiCswodeloE5A
Pretty good info bog here:
https://oldsingersewingmachineblog.c...e-maintenance/
and here;
The Vintage Singer Sewing Machine Blog: How To Remove a 201 Bobbin Case
https://www.etsy.com/listing/4772757...FZiCswodeloE5A
Pretty good info bog here:
https://oldsingersewingmachineblog.c...e-maintenance/
and here;
The Vintage Singer Sewing Machine Blog: How To Remove a 201 Bobbin Case
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You can get a great used machine for less than $50.00.
We acquired all our machines for less than $500.00 total; the $50.00 I spent on my 1976 Kenmore was more than worth it as these Japanese made machines are exceptional in every respect and it is the machine I use the most.
Singer 403 - 100.00 (mint condition)
Singer 500 - 150.00 (mint condition)
Kenmore 1931 - 50.00
Kenmore 1030 - 60.00
Singer 328 - $21.00
Bernina 717 - Priceless.
I saw a lady buy a new entry level Bernina at the shop the other day for $699.00, top of the line machines can cost as much as $12,000 now.
My grail is a Singer 411G or 431G, these were German made Singers that are quite rare and if I found either I could part with our Singer 403 and 500 with no problem as it would do everything they do plus more.
The German 4xx series machines have a few extra features that were not available on domestic machines and were also exceptionally well made.
We acquired all our machines for less than $500.00 total; the $50.00 I spent on my 1976 Kenmore was more than worth it as these Japanese made machines are exceptional in every respect and it is the machine I use the most.
Singer 403 - 100.00 (mint condition)
Singer 500 - 150.00 (mint condition)
Kenmore 1931 - 50.00
Kenmore 1030 - 60.00
Singer 328 - $21.00
Bernina 717 - Priceless.
I saw a lady buy a new entry level Bernina at the shop the other day for $699.00, top of the line machines can cost as much as $12,000 now.
My grail is a Singer 411G or 431G, these were German made Singers that are quite rare and if I found either I could part with our Singer 403 and 500 with no problem as it would do everything they do plus more.
The German 4xx series machines have a few extra features that were not available on domestic machines and were also exceptionally well made.
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So as cb400bill's post indicates, you might find a buyer who really, really wants it for $228. Otherwise the $50 may not even get a buyer.
I had over a dozen machines at one time. Not counting an industrial machine which cost me $125 I believe, the most I gave for all of the others was around $75 for a Model 66 which had a killer cabinet and a ton of accessories. The others typically cost me $25, maybe $35 for one or two or perhaps even $50. That includes a 403 and 503 Rocketeer in perfect condition with a cabinet and accessories. The 600 series? People were giving them to me.
These old sewing machines don't have many serious collectors, in my opinion. And for general home use, there's just such a glut of good old Singers out there compared to very few people who still sew at home. The Model 221 Featherweight is perhaps the only unit out there that has a lot of people clamoring for, the quilting folks want it.
In my opinion of course.
I had over a dozen machines at one time. Not counting an industrial machine which cost me $125 I believe, the most I gave for all of the others was around $75 for a Model 66 which had a killer cabinet and a ton of accessories. The others typically cost me $25, maybe $35 for one or two or perhaps even $50. That includes a 403 and 503 Rocketeer in perfect condition with a cabinet and accessories. The 600 series? People were giving them to me.
These old sewing machines don't have many serious collectors, in my opinion. And for general home use, there's just such a glut of good old Singers out there compared to very few people who still sew at home. The Model 221 Featherweight is perhaps the only unit out there that has a lot of people clamoring for, the quilting folks want it.
In my opinion of course.
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Singer 431G & 411M
Sixtyfiver is absolutely correct to say that top machines are available for relative peanuts. (In USA as well as UK: )
You just need to know what you look for, & how little to pay for the privilege....
I've got an affection for the period Slant o'matics, the best of which are the 411 & 431s.
I started off with a 401G & soon realised how cool they were in the day, & now!
So I look for these machines on ebay, etc!
My 411M came in a dedicated table shown, (Italian made) & also with the crucial chain-stitch throat plate.... Paid £30 for it locally. Lovely machine: ) The 431 & 411s have certain parts in common & I'm experimenting above: )
My 431G also came with the essential chain-stitch throat plate for £25.... Needing some cosmetics, paint loss in certain areas, & one 'dodgy' throat plate fixing post. A common fault on the 431s because the throat plate fixing post looks like a crosshead screw. It isn't a screw, & they are often damaged by unaware owners trying to unscrew them!! Nevertheless my machine works very well & I'm happy to experiment with it, for £25; ) The actual chain stitch throat plate gets way more than £25 on its own. Which is why I took the 'chance'....
Interesting stuff for cycle fiends like me: )
You just need to know what you look for, & how little to pay for the privilege....
I've got an affection for the period Slant o'matics, the best of which are the 411 & 431s.
I started off with a 401G & soon realised how cool they were in the day, & now!
So I look for these machines on ebay, etc!
My 411M came in a dedicated table shown, (Italian made) & also with the crucial chain-stitch throat plate.... Paid £30 for it locally. Lovely machine: ) The 431 & 411s have certain parts in common & I'm experimenting above: )
My 431G also came with the essential chain-stitch throat plate for £25.... Needing some cosmetics, paint loss in certain areas, & one 'dodgy' throat plate fixing post. A common fault on the 431s because the throat plate fixing post looks like a crosshead screw. It isn't a screw, & they are often damaged by unaware owners trying to unscrew them!! Nevertheless my machine works very well & I'm happy to experiment with it, for £25; ) The actual chain stitch throat plate gets way more than £25 on its own. Which is why I took the 'chance'....
Interesting stuff for cycle fiends like me: )
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Singer 431G here; ) Best Slant-O-matic.
This thread needs feeding IMHO: )
To that end I show the absolute best of the Slants.
This is my second 431G & way better than the first I bought for 'spares': )
431Gs were only made in Karlsruhe, Germany in 1964/5 in small quantities.
Most now in US were brought back by Servicemen/wives. Voltage differences make it slightly problematic your side of the pond.
Look here: https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/431/ for reliable info on UK/EU available machines.
Just found this one on ebay recently & took a chance on a BIN. (The poor-ish pics helped; )
Turns out on collection to be 99% perfect, cosmetically & mechanically, with complete attachments, accessories & really neat case. Phew: )
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This is a free arm machine with chain-stitch capability, along with the normal multi-pattern stitching.
So cool, rare & amazing. (for me)
To that end I show the absolute best of the Slants.
This is my second 431G & way better than the first I bought for 'spares': )
431Gs were only made in Karlsruhe, Germany in 1964/5 in small quantities.
Most now in US were brought back by Servicemen/wives. Voltage differences make it slightly problematic your side of the pond.
Look here: https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/431/ for reliable info on UK/EU available machines.
Just found this one on ebay recently & took a chance on a BIN. (The poor-ish pics helped; )
Turns out on collection to be 99% perfect, cosmetically & mechanically, with complete attachments, accessories & really neat case. Phew: )
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This is a free arm machine with chain-stitch capability, along with the normal multi-pattern stitching.
So cool, rare & amazing. (for me)
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Ah! I had forgotten about this thread!!
Here are a few of my recent acquisitions...
First, a sears machine in cabinet. Really cheap. Had a nice forum member over at sewing.patternreview.com send me parts for it for free! Haven't gotten around to thoroughly testing it.
Next, a Kingston Model 140 (I believe). It's a rebranded Brother machine from the 60s. I absolutely adore sewing on this machine. It's so smooth and quiet. It's a straight and zig zag machine.
Next, my largest singer. Is a singer model 111W153. Huge machine. JUST got needles and thread in yesterday to make it work correctly.
Finally, apologies for the non specific picture of it. But I also bought a tiny model 66 (in box). I put it next to the 111w153 for scale... Seller said the "timing was off" because something "hit" when you tried to sew. When I looked at at his house, It all looked good, feet went up when presser foot went down and needle went down. Took it home, threaded it CORRECTLY (left to right.) and it sews great. I believe it's from 1955.
And since this is bikeforums. I bought a folding peugeot recently.
Here are a few of my recent acquisitions...
First, a sears machine in cabinet. Really cheap. Had a nice forum member over at sewing.patternreview.com send me parts for it for free! Haven't gotten around to thoroughly testing it.
Next, a Kingston Model 140 (I believe). It's a rebranded Brother machine from the 60s. I absolutely adore sewing on this machine. It's so smooth and quiet. It's a straight and zig zag machine.
Next, my largest singer. Is a singer model 111W153. Huge machine. JUST got needles and thread in yesterday to make it work correctly.
Finally, apologies for the non specific picture of it. But I also bought a tiny model 66 (in box). I put it next to the 111w153 for scale... Seller said the "timing was off" because something "hit" when you tried to sew. When I looked at at his house, It all looked good, feet went up when presser foot went down and needle went down. Took it home, threaded it CORRECTLY (left to right.) and it sews great. I believe it's from 1955.
And since this is bikeforums. I bought a folding peugeot recently.