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Old 01-20-23, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by seypat
This happens a lot in the C & V world.
Actually it's pretty uncommon but hey, perception is reality. Right?
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
I like colored tires. I also don't give a flaming burst of intestinal gas for what others like, most of the time.

I like frames with no decals. if people ask, I tell them what I am riding ....

One issue with decals is that often manufacturers will clear-coat over them. if not, try that hairdryer trick .... or test various solvents on the paint under thew bottom bracket, where touch-ups won't matter. Maybe alcohol or vinegar or mineral spirits? But test on the paint first, I'd say.

This is an old shot of my blue-tired, badgeless, decal-free Raleigh.
I agree 100% That's a beautiful bike. I think you may be right about the decals having clear coat over them. I don't feel any edges like I do on other bikes.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
Bet you are! One last tip- the color matched tires have been a joke for quite a few years. I know they came with the bikes but replace them with black or tan walls as soon as you can.

Is this the daily memo from the cool kids table?
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Originally Posted by 6door74
Originally Posted by Maelochs
I like colored tires. I also don't give a flaming burst of intestinal gas for what others like, most of the time.

I like frames with no decals. if people ask, I tell them what I am riding ....

One issue with decals is that often manufacturers will clear-coat over them. if not, try that hairdryer trick .... or test various solvents on the paint under thew bottom bracket, where touch-ups won't matter. Maybe alcohol or vinegar or mineral spirits? But test on the paint first, I'd say.

This is an old shot of my blue-tired, badgeless, decal-free Raleigh.

I appreciate the hell out of shading blue for entirely idiosyncratic reasons--I'm mildly red-green colorblind, so blue appears especially vivid to me. If I could find the kind of tires I like in blue, I'd definitely buy them!
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
I appreciate the hell out of shading blue for entirely idiosyncratic reasons--I'm mildly red-green colorblind, so blue appears especially vivid to me. If I could find the kind of tires I like in blue, I'd definitely buy them!
Not sure what you're looking for in a tire but I will likely replace the Hutchison's with these. I got a set in yellow for another bike.

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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
You won't find much info, it's a generic bike comparable to offerings from BD. Never much interest in reviewing them. Not to say there is anything wrong with it, probably will give you good service. Maybe think again about trying to disguise the brand. You won't fool folks who know bikes and folks who don't won't care. That's an attractive green, IMO.
The OP didnt say they want to disguise the brand, they said the word 'carbon' was tacky and wanted to remove it. Those are 2 different things.
I dislike massive branding or overbranding on frames. I have removed some before and it was not in an effort to disguise the brand. Not sure why thats the conclusion you chose to draw. I also didnt see any comments about trying to fool others.

Oh, and what green?
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
Bet you are! One last tip- the color matched tires have been a joke for quite a few years. I know they came with the bikes but replace them with black or tan walls as soon as you can.
Dang, did the OP kick your puppy?
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Scattante R 650 Ultegra 2003 Road Bike user reviews : 4 out of 5 - 25 reviews - roadbikereview.com

One of the reviews says the frame was made by Easton.
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I own a Scattante DX350 It was intended to be a CX bike. DX being morse for "Distance Expedition" or some such.

A fellow in the riding group has the exact same bike. Same stickers. Same everything. His says Fuji on it & is a year newer.

I guess it makes sense. Performance Bikes creditor owned Fuji. So having the same production run meet 2 different customer budgets was a sensible proposition.

Mine came with Sora 2x9 His, something much nicer & better wheels.

The DX350 has 2 really peculiar things that scream second tier production. One being 41-42mm-ish headtube diameter. Which would be appropriate for 1inch integrated (or is it ZS?) standard. But ,the headset & steerer is 1&1/8. Consequently a VP-010ACG is the only headset that will work unless I swap in a 1 inch fork. That ain't happenin'. I bought spare headsets just to be sure.

The other is 130mm disk rear dropouts. Talk about a royal PIA. The OEM Formula hubs are long gone. All there is to do now is shove in a 135mm disc hub & live with the consequences or pull some spacers off of a cup/cone hub & machine some mm's out of the disc brake interface to physically locate the rotor further inboard so the IS mount doesn't interfere with the rotor & building a wheel around it.

Hopefully the OP's bike has a more mainstream selection of "standards."
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
Ha! Guess we just started off wrong. When he asked about "debadging" his generic bike but not the Trek or Specialized, well I suppose I just assumed the usual. He says otherwise.... Anyway, I haven't seen the colored tire thing in years but I'm not exposed to hipsters or lone wolf type cyclists. Obviously folks will do what they want with their own bikes, my work is done here.
Yes, you ASSumed the reason why I didn't debadge the others. A simple question of why not would have answered that. I explained to you why I hadn't with the specialized and the trek would have been a similar response. The trek was black and there would have been no fun in a plain black bike.

I wouldn't describe myself as a lone wolf cyclist, but I'm glad I haven't rode with anyone like you. In the event I find myself with a group that has people like you, I will certainly make the first safe u-turn I can and find another route for the day.

Have a good day

P.S. Since I'm not riding a bike today, I'm going to wear my Blue Ray Ban glasses in honor of you. I hope color glasses aren't a joke too.


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Originally Posted by 6door74
That was one of the things i liked most about it so i will be replacing them with blue tires when the time comes. Once again, in case you haven't gotten the point already, I "style" my bikes to my liking. Not to impress you, anyone, or to disguise my in house brand. The bike was a bright color (+1) , great price (+2), and a great weight (+3). I actually was buying it for my son and when i felt the weight compared to my Trek, I decided to keep it for myself. It looked good and felt good. Win Win

I think it's quite clear that either you're one of those snobby cyclists whose ego rests in their bike brand/model/cost, or someone whose ego has been bruised because of your bike brand/model/cost. Either way, that's not me, but it sure looks like it's you.
I like the blue tires. I don't work hard on color coordinating and there are a lot of bikes with matching tires I don't think work but yours does. (And the current trend? Give it a few years and it will change back.)

Edit: And tires - one of my all time favorites are the Vittoria Open Paves in green. Wonderful wet weather tires. (So easily appropriate for half the western Oregon year.) I don't do green bikes so they don't coordinate but my bikes like 'em. They get to spend more time upright. There are also black Open Paves but they don't have the same vibe. Was just out riding yesterday on my avatar bike and the greenies. Just perfect. Dry day. Wet pavement.

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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
Well heck sonny, I tried to be nice. And don't worry about the U turn, we'd drop you leaving the parking lot. Edit- that pink bike thing needs some bar end streamers to complete the look.
Nah, that would cause too much drag and likely mess up the cinematic footage from my 360 camera. I do plan on changing the bar tape it came with though. That shade of purple doesn't do it for me.

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I like the blue tires. I don't work hard on color coordinating and there are a lot of bikes with matching tires I don't think work but yours does. (And the current trend? Give it a few years and it will change back.)

Edit: And tires - one of my all time favorites are the Vittoria Open Paves in green. Wonderful wet weather tires. (So easily appropriate for half the western Oregon year.) I don't do green bikes so they don't coordinate but my bikes like 'em. They get to spend more time upright. There are also black Open Paves but they don't have the same vibe. Was just out riding yesterday on my avatar bike and the greenies. Just perfect. Dry day. Wet pavement.
You're not the first person to mention those so I just googled the green open pave tires. They are quite nice. I ended up with the Vittoria Rubino Pro and they have them in a few colors. I saw somewhere that a team will be riding on the Vittoria Corsa tires in yellow or blue, I forget. I'm sure they will hit the market at some point for those who like that tire and want to have an option besides gumwall.
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Originally Posted by seypat
This happens a lot in the C & V world.
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Actually it's pretty uncommon but hey, perception is reality. Right?
I travel in Vintage Cannondale circles, and it happens irregularly , but often enough.
Someone will post a “What model do I have?” or “Is this a good deal?” Linked to a listing of a bare-aluminum bike with Cannondale decals on it. Polished Cannondale frames were a signature in the 1990s, and the badging was pretty minimal, so it’s a fairly simple look to try to emulate.
The welding quality usually gives it away almost instantly, though. USA ‘Dales were known for their exceptionally smooth “double-pass” welds; if you can see the weld bead, it’s not a Cannondale.
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I travel in Vintage Cannondale circles, and it happens irregularly , but often enough.
Someone will post a “What model do I have?” or “Is this a good deal?” Linked to a listing of a bare-aluminum bike with Cannondale decals on it. Polished Cannondale frames were a signature in the 1990s, and the badging was pretty minimal, so it’s a fairly simple look to try to emulate.
The welding quality usually gives it away almost instantly, though. USA ‘Dales were known for their exceptionally smooth “double-pass” welds; if you can see the weld bead, it’s not a Cannondale.
Something like this?


Pretty sure it's the fastest bike I've owned. Just couldn't love it though, and sold it not long after acquisition.
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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit531
Actually it's pretty uncommon but hey, perception is reality. Right?
They come through often enough. Here's one here.

Fake? Colnago
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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit531
Actually it's pretty uncommon but hey, perception is reality. Right?
Here's another with a link in the thread to the original thread where the person made the imposter. The bike changes hands and is relisted with no indication of it being a replica.

A Fake 3Rensho?
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Here is a picture of my Trek 412 waiting for it's Masi decals in response to the Breaking Away Masi replica bike from a Trek thread and the Making a De Rosa thread from a few years ago.

Edit: Got to find it on my phone. It'll get here eventually.

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I do appreciate the effort you've put into proving my point.
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Re: removing decals. I've removed decals from my Litespeed with acetone. They obviously weren't clear coated over, but were much thinner than the thicker "sticker" kind that are on some bikes. Doesn't harm titanium. But I would try it on an obscure area before using it on paint. A quick search told me that it might likely dissolve paint, so be forewarned.

I've also used a heat gun to remove decals from bikes and vehicles. Hair dryers can serve the same purpose.
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Scattante was originally a Supergo branding prior to their Performance buy out.

If above the clear coat, moderate heat or acetone. If below, fine paper wet sanding until the acetone lifts it, followed by a spritzes of clear coat and some polish to remove the orange peel. I de-Bianchi'd a fork once.

Many value priced frames put the decals above the coat. Acetone will bleach those immediately.
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...this was a project built out of a made in Taiwan track frame, that was pretty cheap at an end of the year closeout. It's completely different from your bike, and the lettering is, at best, some sort of stick on vinyl lettering that comes off pretty easily, even if youi don't want it to.
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