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Old 04-02-23, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lombard
Continental can call it whatever they want. That doesn't mean that tire will measure 28" in diameter.
28" was the original designation for 700C before the French metricized it. The clouds you are shouting at are all dead by this point.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
The 27.5” designation is a very recent development. The 650B wheel has been around for a very long time but it wasn’t called the “27.5er” (a mouthful) until the last 10 to 15 years. Mountain bikers can’t seem to deal with metric.
I read something a few years ago on why they decided to call it the “27.5er”. It was to alleviate any confusion on bicycle tire sizing. I thought to myself: "My dude, you are just adding more fuel to the dumpster fire that is bicycle tire/rim sizing".

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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Hard to argue that 28" isn't an "actual" size when at least one current and a number of former bicycle tire manufacturers have sold tires clearly labeled 28". Again:

Quoting from the Sheldon Brown tire size chart, for "28 x decimal":

Some German tire companies use this non-standard designation for 622 mm ("700C").
Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
28" was the original designation for 700C before the French metricized it. The clouds you are shouting at are all dead by this point.
Well yeah, 28" is the actual size for one specific width of tire using a 622mm wheel. Sounds like the old joke about the stopped clock being correct twice a day.

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Originally Posted by HelpSingularity
I read something a few years ago on why they decided to call it the “27.5er”. It was to alleviate any confusion on bicycle tire sizing. I thought to myself: "My dude, you are just adding more fuel to the dumpster fire that is bicycle tire/rim sizing".

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Yea, someone really didn’t think about that one. I can’t tell you the number of people I’ve dealt with that come in asking for a 27” tire when they mean a 650B (584mm) tire.
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Originally Posted by Lombard
Well yeah, 28" is the actual size for one specific width of tire using a 622mm wheel. Sounds like the old joke about the stopped clock being correct twice a day.

I'm not letting these clouds off the hook!
That’s the way it is for all tires. A 622mm rim only has a 700mm outside tire diameter on it when it is used with a 39mm tire. A 700x23 tire is 32mm short of 700mm (622mm+ 2(23mm)= 668mm). All tires sizes are based on the outside diameter of one specific width of tire on the rim. All of the tire sizes are based on archaic systems. There are 5 different tires with the designation of 26”. The rim size ranges from the (old) standard 559mm mountain bike to 599mm but they are all called 26”. Using 28” is just one more archaic usage that happens to be more Eurocentric than something found in the US.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Hard to argue that 28" isn't an "actual" size when at least one current and a number of former bicycle tire manufacturers have sold tires clearly labeled 28". Again:

Quoting from the Sheldon Brown tire size chart, for "28 x decimal":

Some German tire companies use this non-standard designation for 622 mm ("700C").
And, to confuse the problem even further, the 28” designation is applied to 635mm rims as well. Fractional but, again, more confusion.
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