This Cannondale Criterium Series Is Killing Me
04-25-18, 10:44 AM
#226
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,317
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 595 Times
in
313 Posts
It's been 3 years since I began the Criterium Series build and today I can say this is still my avorite roadie. Every bike has a feel of it's own, this one is a winner. The one characteristic that is dynamically individual is I cant seem to ride this bike in a casual manner without feeling it needs to be turned up a notch.
Having completed the ride (just now) that inspired this thread I'm amazed how the bike challenges and encourages the spirited rides.
Having completed the ride (just now) that inspired this thread I'm amazed how the bike challenges and encourages the spirited rides.
04-25-18, 11:22 PM
#228
Cycling addiction
04-26-18, 05:31 AM
#229
Banned.
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Liked 1,410 Times
in
910 Posts
Note the similarities in the color and designs of both 2001 models. I was going to ask it if was set up on 650's, or if the frame was just tall and made the wheels look small. Stick a 54T ring on that, a bunch of carbon bits, and the triathletes in "down east" NC would be all over it for their flatland triathlons.
2001 was smack dab in the middle of the 650c trend, with Kestrel doing it in 1998 and I think Cervelo continuing it until 2004 or so.
04-26-18, 03:28 PM
#230
Cycling addiction
No, you didn't, and I didn't mean to imply it; perhaps my speech/writing pattern didn't make that clear.
Note the similarities in the color and designs of both 2001 models. I was going to ask it if was set up on 650's, or if the frame was just tall and made the wheels look small. Stick a 54T ring on that, a bunch of carbon bits, and the triathletes in "down east" NC would be all over it for their flatland triathlons.
2001 was smack dab in the middle of the 650c trend, with Kestrel doing it in 1998 and I think Cervelo continuing it until 2004 or so.
Note the similarities in the color and designs of both 2001 models. I was going to ask it if was set up on 650's, or if the frame was just tall and made the wheels look small. Stick a 54T ring on that, a bunch of carbon bits, and the triathletes in "down east" NC would be all over it for their flatland triathlons.
2001 was smack dab in the middle of the 650c trend, with Kestrel doing it in 1998 and I think Cervelo continuing it until 2004 or so.
Current replacement is a 1992 specialized transition
04-29-18, 10:24 PM
#231
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Mission Viejo
Posts: 5,807
Bikes: 1986 Cannondale SR400 (Flat bar commuter), 1988 Cannondale Criterium XTR, 1992 Serotta T-Max, 1995 Trek 970
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1944 Post(s)
Liked 2,164 Times
in
1,323 Posts
It was 4 years ago since that first ride, an unforgettable moment. Last night I rode the second ride of the spring, a short 16.4mi 521ft ride through the countryside. In a seasonal sense comes a “first” moment ride where I feel totally attached and powering through the course, last night was that moment. I love this bike.
I will say that my Criterium is like nothing else I've ridden. There is not a corner that doesn't beg to be taken hard or a climb that diminishes the stiffness. No effort is wasted. I've ridden other bikes and have been tempted to replace it with something newer or lighter or higher end, but for some reason I just never could. It never disappoints.
John
Likes For 70sSanO:
04-30-18, 10:25 AM
#232
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,317
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 595 Times
in
313 Posts
I have been blessed to have ridden my '88 Criterium since I built it in 1990. There were some years when I put on some weight and decided to ride my '86 Cannondale.
I will say that my Criterium is like nothing else I've ridden. There is not a corner that doesn't beg to be taken hard or a climb that diminishes the stiffness. No effort is wasted. I've ridden other bikes and have been tempted to replace it with something newer or lighter or higher end, but for some reason I just never could. It never disappoints.
John
04-30-18, 06:41 PM
#233
Banned.
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Liked 1,410 Times
in
910 Posts
I have been blessed to have ridden my '88 Criterium since I built it in 1990.
I will say that my Criterium is like nothing else I've ridden. There is not a corner that doesn't beg to be taken hard or a climb that diminishes the stiffness. No effort is wasted. I've ridden other bikes and have been tempted to replace it with something newer or lighter or higher end, but for some reason I just never could. It never disappoints.
John
I will say that my Criterium is like nothing else I've ridden. There is not a corner that doesn't beg to be taken hard or a climb that diminishes the stiffness. No effort is wasted. I've ridden other bikes and have been tempted to replace it with something newer or lighter or higher end, but for some reason I just never could. It never disappoints.
John
Nothing out there right now, it seems, has much, if any, advantage over a Criterium Series, when it comes to "let's go, and let's go NOW." As long as it's not loaded up, it's a Spartan.
I cannot imagine the outcome if I'd have known or considered Pulzion cranksets, Hope Tech hubs, and other carbon bits when I built my SC800. As it is, I sold it to a pro hockey player, who said "I don't mind hurting a bit on a bike if I'm hurting other people more."
He was the right buyer, but the bike remains one which I regret selling, if just to drop the "A" group for the first 20 miles every Tuesday and Saturday.
04-30-18, 07:12 PM
#234
aka: Dr. Cannondale
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,735
Mentioned: 234 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2155 Post(s)
Liked 3,406 Times
in
1,206 Posts
I went out with a bunch of old men last week on my '88 SR500. 58 miles, average 17.3mph.
At 66, and on a 30 year old bike with 6 speed downtube shifters, I'd classify that as sparkin'.
At 66, and on a 30 year old bike with 6 speed downtube shifters, I'd classify that as sparkin'.
__________________
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
04-30-18, 09:10 PM
#235
Senior Member
650c wheels Yay or Nay? , picked up a 1998 C'dale Multisport 1000 that has them, i have never rode with them so not sure what to expect or look out for....
05-01-18, 07:02 AM
#236
Banned.
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Liked 1,410 Times
in
910 Posts
There is a set of Campy Vento's here in 650c for a similar low price (700c and I'd have picked them up for hodgykins' Paramount)
You are an experienced cyclist, so first you have to decide how often you'd ride it, I think.
05-01-18, 09:42 AM
#237
Senior Member
Thanks RT. it has a mismatched set of Mavic CXP's on it that i think i will tune up and run for now and if i really like it i will look for an upgrade!
Heres the offending machine as i picked it up,
Heres the offending machine as i picked it up,
06-18-18, 04:57 PM
#239
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,317
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 595 Times
in
313 Posts
Just stuck a new set of Michelin Pro4 Service Course skins on this rocket. Initial 2mi cruise, they feel quite zippy compared the heavier Krylions. The Pro4 SC is 35 grams lighter and a faster rolling tread design. Nice tire.
02-08-19, 05:26 PM
#240
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,317
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 595 Times
in
313 Posts
Just installed the FSA Vero 50/34 and suddenly not liking it being the dead of winter. Here is the Ryp’s Rocket in full tune and ready to rock the hills.
02-08-19, 07:54 PM
#242
Master Parts Rearranger
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Portlandia's Kuiper Belt, OR
Posts: 4,403
Bikes: 1982 Trek 720 - 1985 Trek 620 - 1984 Trek 620 - 1980 Trek 510 - Other luminaries past and present
Mentioned: 221 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1556 Post(s)
Liked 2,024 Times
in
989 Posts
Man those are looking good!
Recently built up this re-purchased '89 SR800 crit bike (frame, fork, headset). 66cm proper. In this configuration the steering is very quick though never twitchy, and I can center it easily. Feels insane after riding my ST400, but I quickly get used to it. Narrower-than-normal handlebars (Cinelli Criterium/65s) make the steering much quicker, and out of the saddle efforts rocking side to side on the bars is a little odd (wider/normal-to-me width bars feel fine no matter the bike). I put on wider (Criterium) bars and the quick steering completely disappeared. A very tame, very stable, if neutered, bike. Comfortable, but no longer zany. I mean, 56mm of trail is never going to betray, but still, I want that bike to be alive.
This bike will be reconfigured as, very likely, a 3x10 Shimano Ultegra setup from my parts bin, aiming to do the super tall cyclist a solid by offering a great bike that's well sorted for a good price. Its size is at my outer limit top tube-wise, and when out of the saddle and rocking the bike back and forth, the higher top tube level hits higher up on my inner thighs, thereby limiting the angle of rock, which is a bummer. I have a 63cm Cannondale Crit ('91 SC1000/2000) but the paint is rough enough that I'd like to pass that along as well to someone looking for a fast commuter/rider for not a lot of money (I got the frameset super cheap). I'm going back to an SR geometry and picked one up recently. It's also built up and looking gorgeous, but it has all of a sudden snowed and dropped to the 20's over the last week, so inside it stays.
Recently built up this re-purchased '89 SR800 crit bike (frame, fork, headset). 66cm proper. In this configuration the steering is very quick though never twitchy, and I can center it easily. Feels insane after riding my ST400, but I quickly get used to it. Narrower-than-normal handlebars (Cinelli Criterium/65s) make the steering much quicker, and out of the saddle efforts rocking side to side on the bars is a little odd (wider/normal-to-me width bars feel fine no matter the bike). I put on wider (Criterium) bars and the quick steering completely disappeared. A very tame, very stable, if neutered, bike. Comfortable, but no longer zany. I mean, 56mm of trail is never going to betray, but still, I want that bike to be alive.
This bike will be reconfigured as, very likely, a 3x10 Shimano Ultegra setup from my parts bin, aiming to do the super tall cyclist a solid by offering a great bike that's well sorted for a good price. Its size is at my outer limit top tube-wise, and when out of the saddle and rocking the bike back and forth, the higher top tube level hits higher up on my inner thighs, thereby limiting the angle of rock, which is a bummer. I have a 63cm Cannondale Crit ('91 SC1000/2000) but the paint is rough enough that I'd like to pass that along as well to someone looking for a fast commuter/rider for not a lot of money (I got the frameset super cheap). I'm going back to an SR geometry and picked one up recently. It's also built up and looking gorgeous, but it has all of a sudden snowed and dropped to the 20's over the last week, so inside it stays.
02-08-19, 08:21 PM
#243
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,317
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 595 Times
in
313 Posts
Man those are looking good!
Recently built up this re-purchased '89 SR800 crit bike (frame, fork, headset). 66cm proper. In this configuration the steering is very quick though never twitchy, and I can center it easily. Feels insane after riding my ST400, but I quickly get used to it. Narrower-than-normal handlebars (Cinelli Criterium/65s) make the steering much quicker, and out of the saddle efforts rocking side to side on the bars is a little odd (wider/normal-to-me width bars feel fine no matter the bike). I put on wider (Criterium) bars and the quick steering completely disappeared. A very tame, very stable, if neutered, bike. Comfortable, but no longer zany. I mean, 56mm of trail is never going to betray, but still, I want that bike to be alive.
This bike will be reconfigured as, very likely, a 3x10 Shimano Ultegra setup from my parts bin, aiming to do the super tall cyclist a solid by offering a great bike that's well sorted for a good price. Its size is at my outer limit top tube-wise, and when out of the saddle and rocking the bike back and forth, the higher top tube level hits higher up on my inner thighs, thereby limiting the angle of rock, which is a bummer. I have a 63cm Cannondale Crit ('91 SC1000/2000) but the paint is rough enough that I'd like to pass that along as well to someone looking for a fast commuter/rider for not a lot of money (I got the frameset super cheap). I'm going back to an SR geometry and picked one up recently. It's also built up and looking gorgeous, but it has all of a sudden snowed and dropped to the 20's over the last week, so inside it stays.
Recently built up this re-purchased '89 SR800 crit bike (frame, fork, headset). 66cm proper. In this configuration the steering is very quick though never twitchy, and I can center it easily. Feels insane after riding my ST400, but I quickly get used to it. Narrower-than-normal handlebars (Cinelli Criterium/65s) make the steering much quicker, and out of the saddle efforts rocking side to side on the bars is a little odd (wider/normal-to-me width bars feel fine no matter the bike). I put on wider (Criterium) bars and the quick steering completely disappeared. A very tame, very stable, if neutered, bike. Comfortable, but no longer zany. I mean, 56mm of trail is never going to betray, but still, I want that bike to be alive.
This bike will be reconfigured as, very likely, a 3x10 Shimano Ultegra setup from my parts bin, aiming to do the super tall cyclist a solid by offering a great bike that's well sorted for a good price. Its size is at my outer limit top tube-wise, and when out of the saddle and rocking the bike back and forth, the higher top tube level hits higher up on my inner thighs, thereby limiting the angle of rock, which is a bummer. I have a 63cm Cannondale Crit ('91 SC1000/2000) but the paint is rough enough that I'd like to pass that along as well to someone looking for a fast commuter/rider for not a lot of money (I got the frameset super cheap). I'm going back to an SR geometry and picked one up recently. It's also built up and looking gorgeous, but it has all of a sudden snowed and dropped to the 20's over the last week, so inside it stays.
02-08-19, 09:25 PM
#244
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Seal Beach Ca. On the right , next to Long Beach
Posts: 1,815
Bikes: 86' Centurion Ironman
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 628 Post(s)
Liked 316 Times
in
175 Posts
Awesome looking C'dale ROS , the red and white really make it pop . I love the way the seat stays go vertical on the "R's" .
02-08-19, 09:57 PM
#245
Master Parts Rearranger
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Portlandia's Kuiper Belt, OR
Posts: 4,403
Bikes: 1982 Trek 720 - 1985 Trek 620 - 1984 Trek 620 - 1980 Trek 510 - Other luminaries past and present
Mentioned: 221 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1556 Post(s)
Liked 2,024 Times
in
989 Posts
Thank you! This bike (and really, any vintage Cannondale I've owned) has never been harsh, and I've run stiff wheels and Gatorskins simultaneously. On this one at this time, I have my trusty and supple Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CXs. All the power transfer you get with these great frames, and with the tires, any jolts or crummy road surfaces are very well damped.
02-08-19, 10:06 PM
#246
Master Parts Rearranger
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Portlandia's Kuiper Belt, OR
Posts: 4,403
Bikes: 1982 Trek 720 - 1985 Trek 620 - 1984 Trek 620 - 1980 Trek 510 - Other luminaries past and present
Mentioned: 221 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1556 Post(s)
Liked 2,024 Times
in
989 Posts
Now I don't want to sell it...gah, even for a good 'cause' (big guys need good bikes, too). I look at my other bikes and my heart is more than full--they're all so great! I am beyond blessed. But I can't ride them because snow and ice! In February, in Seattle! Stem conversion, for sure. STI shifters for sure. A triple makes it go anywhere, and really quickly, too.
06-10-19, 08:27 PM
#247
Junior Member
This '90 SR400 reminds me of the car I learned to drive on, a brand new '72 BMW 2002. You simply have to push it and yourself to the limit. I'm thinking about going to Microshift brifters but don't really want to spoil the classic look. It's 100% stock except for the seat. The tires are Continental Grand Prix Classics. I'm surrounded by 10 to 13 degree hills and this thing just eats them up. I love this bike.
11-21-19, 10:27 PM
#248
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,317
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 595 Times
in
313 Posts
This '90 SR400 reminds me of the car I learned to drive on, a brand new '72 BMW 2002. You simply have to push it and yourself to the limit. I'm thinking about going to Microshift brifters but don't really want to spoil the classic look. It's 100% stock except for the seat. The tires are Continental Grand Prix Classics. I'm surrounded by 10 to 13 degree hills and this thing just eats them up. I love this bike.
01-14-20, 01:05 PM
#249
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,317
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 595 Times
in
313 Posts
After 6 seasons it’s time to replace the chain. Pedals and clips, as well. This bike still stirs my riding passions. The past 2 seasons were lighter on mileage but with our return to home base and being semi-retired, this bike will be again lighting up the routes with increased saddle time. Just love this thing.
01-14-20, 01:41 PM
#250
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,516
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3241 Post(s)
Liked 2,512 Times
in
1,510 Posts