Smooth out twist shifters or will they break in over time?
04-25-22, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MyRedTrek View Post
You inserted opining devoid of information.
You confirm my suspicion that you haven't spent 10 seconds looking at one of these - if you had you'd know how simple they are to disassemble and reassemble. You're preoccupied with inserting - and now trying to rationalize opinion you've already previously been told is unwelcome - but don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the actual question that was asked.
You inserted opining devoid of information.
You confirm my suspicion that you haven't spent 10 seconds looking at one of these - if you had you'd know how simple they are to disassemble and reassemble. You're preoccupied with inserting - and now trying to rationalize opinion you've already previously been told is unwelcome - but don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the actual question that was asked.
Lol - now you're at least providing entertainment. No, you clearly *don't* get it...at all. I've previously spelled out what the situation is with this bike - it apparently just bounced off of you.
As far as your experience working on bikes, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you would at least comprehend its simplicity if you had ever looked at one. I had the first one apart in no time having never held one in my hands before. I just looked at it - oh, that's simple - done. Four pieces including the rubber grip, five if you include the cable.
Say g'night Gracie.
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04-25-22, 10:39 AM
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Vegan was already advised in another thread that I got it thinking I was going to use it as an inexpensive beater spare for times when my Giant Cypress needed work but it proved to be too small so I'm gifting it to someone - I'm not going to dump a bunch of money into it replacing all the hardware, I just want to make sure that everything that's on it now works as well as possible. If they want *they* can put money into a new bike they're getting for free.
I also like tinkering with things whether it's a bike or my Corvette with a Weiand supercharger on it and if I can enhance the functionality of the factory pieces that'll be great. It's completely possible to do on cars and other mechanical things but the notion of this seems to fall outside of what Vegan and others are comfortable considering. Their default is "Big Box bikes are complete crap period" but appears to be based on "common knowledge" rather than personal experience since he's made clear he isn't aware of how simple these shifters are to take apart and put back together. So far I'm not finding there's anything particularly wrong within the bike other than the assembly and adjustment was shoddy.
I also like tinkering with things whether it's a bike or my Corvette with a Weiand supercharger on it and if I can enhance the functionality of the factory pieces that'll be great. It's completely possible to do on cars and other mechanical things but the notion of this seems to fall outside of what Vegan and others are comfortable considering. Their default is "Big Box bikes are complete crap period" but appears to be based on "common knowledge" rather than personal experience since he's made clear he isn't aware of how simple these shifters are to take apart and put back together. So far I'm not finding there's anything particularly wrong within the bike other than the assembly and adjustment was shoddy.
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04-25-22, 02:41 PM
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I get it
Lol - now you're at least providing entertainment. No, you clearly *don't* get it...at all. I've previously spelled out what the situation is with this bike - it apparently just bounced off of you.
As far as your experience working on bikes, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you would at least comprehend its simplicity if you had ever looked at one. I had the first one apart in no time having never held one in my hands before. I just looked at it - oh, that's simple - done. Four pieces including the rubber grip, five if you include the cable.
Say g'night Gracie.
Lol - now you're at least providing entertainment. No, you clearly *don't* get it...at all. I've previously spelled out what the situation is with this bike - it apparently just bounced off of you.
As far as your experience working on bikes, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you would at least comprehend its simplicity if you had ever looked at one. I had the first one apart in no time having never held one in my hands before. I just looked at it - oh, that's simple - done. Four pieces including the rubber grip, five if you include the cable.
Say g'night Gracie.
You are an odd person but hey if spending more money then a bike is worth and spending a ton of time on a bike that will not get better and will not be worth any more and in the end is a very disposable item go for it.
04-25-22, 02:51 PM
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Vegan was already advised in another thread that I got it thinking I was going to use it as an inexpensive beater spare for times when my Giant Cypress needed work but it proved to be too small so I'm gifting it to someone - I'm not going to dump a bunch of money into it replacing all the hardware, I just want to make sure that everything that's on it now works as well as possible. If they want *they* can put money into a new bike they're getting for free.
I also like tinkering with things whether it's a bike or my Corvette with a Weiand supercharger on it and if I can enhance the functionality of the factory pieces that'll be great. It's completely possible to do on cars and other mechanical things but the notion of this seems to fall outside of what Vegan and others are comfortable considering. Their default is "Big Box bikes are complete crap period" but appears to be based on "common knowledge" rather than personal experience since he's made clear he isn't aware of how simple these shifters are to take apart and put back together. So far I'm not finding there's anything particularly wrong with the bike other than the assembly and adjustment was shoddy.
I also like tinkering with things whether it's a bike or my Corvette with a Weiand supercharger on it and if I can enhance the functionality of the factory pieces that'll be great. It's completely possible to do on cars and other mechanical things but the notion of this seems to fall outside of what Vegan and others are comfortable considering. Their default is "Big Box bikes are complete crap period" but appears to be based on "common knowledge" rather than personal experience since he's made clear he isn't aware of how simple these shifters are to take apart and put back together. So far I'm not finding there's anything particularly wrong with the bike other than the assembly and adjustment was shoddy.
Not really a Corvette person but I am not in a man in a mid-life crisis or Biden. I mean a Plumb Crazy Purple Plymouth Roadrunner could get me excited but I do love old cartoons and the color purple, Meep Meep. To me I would rather have a more practical car but something I could also camp with as well.
04-25-22, 03:16 PM
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My only observation, I think silicone grease is fine with plastics.
But I don’t know if it is as good as Johnnisnot for twist shifters.
John
But I don’t know if it is as good as Johnnisnot for twist shifters.
John
04-25-22, 04:33 PM
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Getting something apart isn't a problem, getting it back together is another thing. However have fun.
You are an odd person but hey if spending more money then a bike is worth and spending a ton of time on a bike that will not get better and will not be worth any more and in the end is a very disposable item go for it.
You are an odd person but hey if spending more money then a bike is worth and spending a ton of time on a bike that will not get better and will not be worth any more and in the end is a very disposable item go for it.
1. Push the two halves of the shifter together ensuring the cable is aligned correctly.
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04-25-22, 07:28 PM
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I get it
Lol - now you're at least providing entertainment. No, you clearly *don't* get it...at all. I've previously spelled out what the situation is with this bike - it apparently just bounced off of you.
As far as your experience working on bikes, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you would at least comprehend its simplicity if you had ever looked at one. I had the first one apart in no time having never held one in my hands before. I just looked at it - oh, that's simple - done. Four pieces including the rubber grip, five if you include the cable.
Say g'night Gracie.
Lol - now you're at least providing entertainment. No, you clearly *don't* get it...at all. I've previously spelled out what the situation is with this bike - it apparently just bounced off of you.
As far as your experience working on bikes, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you would at least comprehend its simplicity if you had ever looked at one. I had the first one apart in no time having never held one in my hands before. I just looked at it - oh, that's simple - done. Four pieces including the rubber grip, five if you include the cable.
Say g'night Gracie.
04-26-22, 03:50 PM
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This morning I just happened to be working on a bike that needed a shifter upgrade. The shifters were the old Grip-Shift X-Ray units matched with Shimano XT derrailleurs. Upshifting was sticky and the system was hard to keep indexed well.
So out of the archives I pulled out some new old stock SRAM X0 shorty twist shifters and mated with some X9 derailleurs. New cables and housing of course.
Now it all shifts like butta! I love the light action of the X0 shifters and derailleurs; much less friction than the X-Rays. The new shifters are spring loaded to somewhat overcome the derailleur spring pull. The 1:1 actuation ratio of SRAM is probably going to be more resistant to mis-alignment, wear and dirt than the 1:1.7 ratio for Shimano.
New cables and housing likely helped as well.
So out of the archives I pulled out some new old stock SRAM X0 shorty twist shifters and mated with some X9 derailleurs. New cables and housing of course.
Now it all shifts like butta! I love the light action of the X0 shifters and derailleurs; much less friction than the X-Rays. The new shifters are spring loaded to somewhat overcome the derailleur spring pull. The 1:1 actuation ratio of SRAM is probably going to be more resistant to mis-alignment, wear and dirt than the 1:1.7 ratio for Shimano.
New cables and housing likely helped as well.
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04-26-22, 04:40 PM
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I generally replace grip shifters if I can't easily re-cable them. Also, the rubber grip starts to get sticky and makes a mess. Grip shifters have their place, but fussing with them is a waste of time and aggrivation
04-26-22, 05:37 PM
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Not really a Corvette person but I am not in a man in a mid-life crisis or Biden. I mean a Plumb Crazy Purple Plymouth Roadrunner could get me excited but I do love old cartoons and the color purple, Meep Meep. To me I would rather have a more practical car but something I could also camp with as well.
As far as practicality definitely not a family car but I transported 12 2.0 cu ft bags of mulch with it because my pickup was down and I haul groceries all the time - the 'Vettes since '78 have actual storage space. Probably not going to move furniture or major appliances with it though.
04-26-22, 06:34 PM
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TLDR thread summary:
OP: Should I leave these cheap shifters alone?
Reply #1: Yes
Posts 2 - 35: Kindergarten good fight.
Post 36: Corvettes
You’re welcome.
OP: Should I leave these cheap shifters alone?
Reply #1: Yes
Posts 2 - 35: Kindergarten good fight.
Post 36: Corvettes
You’re welcome.
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MyRedTrek should remember that replies—even those he doesn’t like or says have zero value—may be entirely valuable to other readers who may have the same lofty, but perhaps misguided, ambitions.
If he only values the advice of certain members and doesn’t want to hear from others, I might suggest the forum’s PM function.
If he only values the advice of certain members and doesn’t want to hear from others, I might suggest the forum’s PM function.
