Johnk3

One additional comment about regular steel frames, they can rust. I have a custom Cinelli Supercorsa that has poor chrome work and the chrome lugs began to rust in months. Cinelli is making me a new frame with a new chrome plate process, but it is being held up by the virus in Italy. That problem is why I got the Barco XCr stainless frame. I was worried that my sweat was too corrosive for my bike's own good. It isn't a problem with fully painted frames, but I like the shiny chrome for a classic lugged steel frame. My Barco XCr is a modern TIG welded frame that is very high tech, it also weighs several pounds less than my Cinelli Supercorsa. shown here.

Litespud

Since a Colnago Master in AD10 Blue is the only frame I would buy, bar none, if I were replacing my current ride and I had 3 grand to spare, this is an easy question for me.

Johnk3

In my humble opinion, the Colnago Master paint job is gaudy and far too flashy. I would opt for the Colnago Arabesque instead.

Slowridr

I actually just ordered the master in saronni red. Ordered from the UK. Much cheaper then Canada

After taking into account the account the extra I had to pay for the fork and paint on the Gunnar the master was just a tad more expensive. I liked the idea of going custom but that was so much more so maybe nexr time.

Now to pick the group. Im guessing I gotta go with campag. This will be my first time trying it out. Thinking of the modern chorus groupset

Thanks for everyone's help

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Johnk3

You won't go wrong with Campy. Chorus is a very nice group. It's a big sin to put Asian groups on a beautiful handmade Italian frame.

Litespud

fair enough. I’m not wild about the Arabesque’s lugs - a little overdone for my taste, but the kicker for me is the threaded headset. I’m all for retro (and the Arabesque certainly is a beautiful bike) but I simply think threadless is a better system. To my mind, the Master is retro but modern where it counts