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Old 03-14-17, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
It would look like this:


Yes, that's the carbon precipitating out of the atmosphere, like when algae grows in an aquarium. Then, the trick is to cultivate the growth in a way that prevents damage to the structures and channels the nutrient-flows into forms humans can co-exist with. Trees, for example, hold their branches and leaves up off the ground with their trunks, so they are a good way to channel water, carbon, and energy overhead. Birds and squirrels are good animals for channeling the energy/nutrients of berries and nuts into productive labor that spreads fertilizer.

Notice how all that green plant cover absorbs heat as it grows. Instead of channeling the heat and humidity up and away as wind, it absorbs it and channels it through the living tissues of the ecosystem. It's really a brilliant mechanical system for absorbing waste heat and other atmospheric waste/dust and channeling it into a condensed form. The challenge, however, is to prevent it from damaging the buildings, causing leaks, etc.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
I don't think it's directed personally at me. Roody sort of explained it already. They are living with a negative mentality toward anyone who doesn't drive. They themselves wouldn't be caught dead riding around on a bike or walking for transportation. They consider that something for losers and dropouts. So they don't think about what is harmful toward people using a sidewalk or bike lane because they simply don't think about those people. It would be like a pedestrian tossing rocks off an overpass because they don't pay attention to the cars driving below that could get damaged by the falling rocks. If you asked them if they were trying to harm the traffic below, they'd say they just didn't think about the traffic. Essentially they're just being egocentric, but the net effect is harm done to others.
You think people cut down trees because they want you to suffer in the sun? That's crazy. They cut down trees because it makes them more money - period.
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You think people cut down trees because they want you to suffer in the sun? That's crazy. They cut down trees because it makes them more money - period.
Every form of waste and destruction makes more money because wasted and destroyed things cost money to replace. Try leaving just about anything in the sun and see how long it takes it to fade, become brittle, or otherwise bake. Buildings warmed by the sun in summer buy more coal/electricity in the form of air-conditioning. People flee indoors and into vehicles to avoid the heat, and all that square footage costs money. It's all money, but it's not good.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
It would certainly be interesting to do an experiment where all mowing and pruning is stopped in a city, to see what the city looks like after 5, 10, 20, 50 years. Idk how fast the growth of organic systems would go, but I'm pretty certain it would be non-zero, assuming no efforts were made to prevent it.

Also, btw, biomass growth without artificial interventions like watering, fertilizing, planting, etc. is important to reforestation because it allows ecologies to re-establish according to the resources naturally available to them and adapt. Using energy to pump water for irrigation, make and transport fertilizer, transport and plant saplings, etc. might be good in some instances to jump-start the process, but ultimately it's better to allow reforestation to occur as naturally as possible, e.g. by allowing established local varieties to multiply and spread, possibly transplanting seeds/acorns and leaves across paved areas where they won't naturally reach across.
Check out some of the reports about Chernobyl and also the Korean DMZ--places that have had almost no cultivation for decades.

Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Without_Us
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I don't see how any city other than New York could ever top such a list, as it's the only city in the country where the majority of people already live car free. Whatever San Francisco may have going for it in theory, New Yorkers are already doing in practice. The proof is in the pudding.
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This video from GCN might contribute to knowledge in this thread:


Apart from the gems mentioned in the video above (probably a few but not many more in the US), it's apples to oranges when comparing most American cities to most European cities, Singapore and a few other places:


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