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Old 05-04-18, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
Graphene? It sounds like one of the ingredients in Kool-Aid.

But more seriously, how can a tire with flat protection layer(s) roll better than a quality tire without them? It's just extra, unnecessary material to slow things down.

I only had one flat in about 7000 miles on Compass tires. Seems plenty good to me.
At $80 US each for Clinchers it's a definate pass. I am glad now all my Road Bikes run Tubulars.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
At $80 US each for Clinchers it's a definate pass. I am glad now all my Road Bikes run Tubulars.
I'm glad you found what works for you. I got the $57 (60 now, I think) standard casing models. I was afraid the extra lights may have been too flimsy/fragile, but now after 3 years of no problems I think I'll try the fancy $80 tires. You won't catch me gluing tires, or running messy sealants.
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
I'm glad you found what works for you. I got the $57 (60 now, I think) standard casing models. I was afraid the extra lights may have been too flimsy/fragile, but now after 3 years of no problems I think I'll try the fancy $80 tires. You won't catch me gluing tires, or running messy sealants.
I think glueing Tyres is totally C&V. Never had to use a Sealant. And I haven't had a pinch flat since the clincher Day's.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
I think glueing Tyres is totally C&V. Never had to use a Sealant. And I haven't had a pinch flat since the clincher Day's.
With a big blow out on a side wall you are walking home on clinchers, you just pop a new tire on and ride with tubulars. I have only had one flat in 4 years knock on wood.
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@salamandrine; hit the nail on the head with regards to the cost associated with quality tires and small batch production, and how influential tires can be on the quality of the ride. I would take it a step further (and a bit OT) by specifically stating that wider is better. If my 700c bikes can’t fit 38’s, they generally get converted to 650b so they can. And I’m not putting cheapo Col de la Vie tires on them, I want quality tires.

I find it amusing when people argue over the cost of tires when many of those same people have sunk hundreds more into their bikes to get “just the right component.” Do you really need NOS Dura Ace on your 80’s grail bike even though modern Tiagra shifts just as well, is more cross compatible and is cheaper? Of course you do! But components aren’t consumable and I also think many people associate spend less with a consumable part.

I personally think it’s stupid to commute in a Ford F-150, but enough people think I’m wrong to make it the best selling car in ‘Merica - so much so that Ford is discontinuing production of its actual cars... but I digress.
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitlatch
With a big blow out on a side wall you are walking home on clinchers, you just pop a new tire on and ride with tubulars.
By that same logic, if a person carried around a spare clincher+tube, he/she could just pop it on and ride too.
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Do you subscribe to Jan Heine's Vintage Bike Quarterly ? and for how many years?
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Do you subscribe to Jan Heine's Vintage Bike Quarterly ? and for how many years?
If you are referring to me, I have been a subscriber for three years and found a used set of every back issue which I have loved. I don't do the length or quantity of "epic rides" like Jan (I'm not that strong of a rider), but I enjoy the stories, histories and the non-mainstream/hype-free analysis. Yes, he has a particular point of view, but he is very transparent about what it is and one can easily interpret his reviews. I have no time for/interest in regurgitated ad-copy about the latest, greatest product being pushed largely because it is new, not necessarily better.

This thread, like most others about Compass products, is turning into a bit of a dissertation on Jan.

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Originally Posted by Steve Whitlatch
i am sorry I said I think the price is high. I don`t want to argue. Many people, including my wife, think I pay too much for my tubular and clincher tires too. There is a good selection of very high quality clinchers out there in 700 x 28 . Buy what you like.
You needn't apologize for saying that Conpass tires are expensive -- they are! That same $80 would buy a tire for my car that will last 30,000 miles or more and never puncture. I just choose to compartmentalize these things, I guess
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
I think glueing Tyres is totally C&V.
One of the things I like most about tubulars is that other people think they're too much hassle.
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Originally Posted by mountaindave
If you are referring to me, I have been a subscriber for three years and found a used set of every back issue which I have loved. I don't do the length or quantity of "epic rides" like Jan (I'm not that strong of a rider), but I enjoy the stories, histories and the non-mainstream/hype-free analysis. Yes, he has a particular point of view, but he is very transparent about what it is and one can easily interpret his reviews. I have no time for/interest in regurgitated ad-copy about the latest, greatest product being pushed largely because it is new, not necessarily better.

This thread, like most others about Compass products, is turning into a bit of a dissertation on Jan.

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Love that analogy! As well as your other comments regarding BQ/Jan Heine, @mountaindave.

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At $80 US each for Clinchers it's a definate pass. I am glad now all my Road Bikes run Tubulars.
And what are those running you these days? I think FMBs are $105-$160.
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitlatch
With a big blow out on a side wall you are walking home on clinchers, you just pop a new tire on and ride with tubulars. I have only had one flat in 4 years knock on wood.
If you're OK with carrying a spare tubular, you should be OK with carrying a spare folding clincher too.
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Do you subscribe to Jan Heine's Vintage Bike Quarterly ? and for how many years?
It hasn't been called Vintage Bicycle Quarterly in a long time; these days it's just Bicycle Quarterly and in my case yes, since the 2004 Tsunami, and as soon as I saw my first issue I ordered copies of all the back issues I'd missed.
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Originally Posted by palincss
And what are those running you these days? I think FMBs are $105-$160.
Never heard of FMB's. And I have never paid more than $70 each for Tubulars. usually buy them on sale at one of the UK sites.

They ride better they handle better they are signifacantly lighter than clinchers.

They must have something going for them. I bet in the Pro Peleton there wasn't one rider running Clinchers.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
Never heard of FMB's. And I have never paid more than $70 each for Tubulars. usually buy them on sale at one of the UK sites.

They ride better they handle better they are signifacantly lighter than clinchers.

They must have something going for them. I bet in the Pro Peleton there wasn't one rider running Clinchers.
From what I hear, FMB are the best tubulars going. They're hand-made in the traditional way, and are said to be as good as the best of the classic era. And it is only money, after all.
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Originally Posted by mountaindave

By that same logic, if a person carried around a spare clincher+tube, he/she could just pop it on and ride too.

I have never seen anyone carry a spare clincher tire. I have seen blowouts and people walking because the replacement tube popped in the big hole on the sidewall. Buy what you like. I love quality tires. If people want to make their racing bike look like a beach cruiser with big wide quality tires , that`s cool by me. To each their own.
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Originally Posted by palincss
From what I hear, FMB are the best tubulars going. They're hand-made in the traditional way, and are said to be as good as the best of the classic era. And it is only money, after all.
I find the Vitoria Corsa's or the Veloflex Criterium's are enough Tyre for me. I don't subscribe to "snake oil" or am I ever going to be riding in the TDF.
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But take a look at this cool toilet at a bike shop I went to today.........
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitlatch

But take a look at this cool toilet at a bike shop I went to today.........
That seat looks like it was glued on.
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That seat looks like it was glued on.
yes but I am sure Jan has a much better clincher version in his bathroom.
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Originally Posted by palincss
From what I hear, FMB are the best tubulars going. They're hand-made in the traditional way, and are said to be as good as the best of the classic era. And it is only money, after all.
They are good. But no better than Dugast or Veloflex.

There was a fellow at the Madison swap for a couple years selling 25mm FMB PRs for $20 each. I have 6 in my basement. He wasn't there this year.
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitlatch
...Buy what you like. I love quality tires... To each their own.
Agreed
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Originally Posted by wgscott
It's the last step in my Bianchi renewal project:



(I've since put on a blue Brooks. That blue Bianchi saddle started to separate at the back from the frame around 1988 but never got bad enough to chuck, but I finally got rid of it.) This has the Clement Strada 28mm tires I spoke of. The rims are (new) 17.5mm internal width, H+ and Son TB14 Double Walled 32 Hole Alloy Rims.
Did you replace the decals? That looks more '89ish than '87 to me. $160 for two tires? Clinchers even? Thye better pump themselves and be self healing even with a 2" sidewall cut. Will you really notice the difference between those and $30 Panaracer?
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