Should I blow $160 on Compass 28mm Chinook Pass tires for my 1987 Bianchi?
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Graphene? It sounds like one of the ingredients in Kool-Aid.
But more seriously, how can a tire with flat protection layer(s) roll better than a quality tire without them? It's just extra, unnecessary material to slow things down.
I only had one flat in about 7000 miles on Compass tires. Seems plenty good to me.
But more seriously, how can a tire with flat protection layer(s) roll better than a quality tire without them? It's just extra, unnecessary material to slow things down.
I only had one flat in about 7000 miles on Compass tires. Seems plenty good to me.
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I'm glad you found what works for you. I got the $57 (60 now, I think) standard casing models. I was afraid the extra lights may have been too flimsy/fragile, but now after 3 years of no problems I think I'll try the fancy $80 tires. You won't catch me gluing tires, or running messy sealants.
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I'm glad you found what works for you. I got the $57 (60 now, I think) standard casing models. I was afraid the extra lights may have been too flimsy/fragile, but now after 3 years of no problems I think I'll try the fancy $80 tires. You won't catch me gluing tires, or running messy sealants.
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With a big blow out on a side wall you are walking home on clinchers, you just pop a new tire on and ride with tubulars. I have only had one flat in 4 years knock on wood.
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@salamandrine; hit the nail on the head with regards to the cost associated with quality tires and small batch production, and how influential tires can be on the quality of the ride. I would take it a step further (and a bit OT) by specifically stating that wider is better. If my 700c bikes can’t fit 38’s, they generally get converted to 650b so they can. And I’m not putting cheapo Col de la Vie tires on them, I want quality tires.
I find it amusing when people argue over the cost of tires when many of those same people have sunk hundreds more into their bikes to get “just the right component.” Do you really need NOS Dura Ace on your 80’s grail bike even though modern Tiagra shifts just as well, is more cross compatible and is cheaper? Of course you do! But components aren’t consumable and I also think many people associate spend less with a consumable part.
I personally think it’s stupid to commute in a Ford F-150, but enough people think I’m wrong to make it the best selling car in ‘Merica - so much so that Ford is discontinuing production of its actual cars... but I digress.
I find it amusing when people argue over the cost of tires when many of those same people have sunk hundreds more into their bikes to get “just the right component.” Do you really need NOS Dura Ace on your 80’s grail bike even though modern Tiagra shifts just as well, is more cross compatible and is cheaper? Of course you do! But components aren’t consumable and I also think many people associate spend less with a consumable part.
I personally think it’s stupid to commute in a Ford F-150, but enough people think I’m wrong to make it the best selling car in ‘Merica - so much so that Ford is discontinuing production of its actual cars... but I digress.
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This thread, like most others about Compass products, is turning into a bit of a dissertation on Jan.
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You needn't apologize for saying that Conpass tires are expensive -- they are! That same $80 would buy a tire for my car that will last 30,000 miles or more and never puncture. I just choose to compartmentalize these things, I guess
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I wanted to help the collective out here to reach at least 10 pages on this fine topic. We'll resolve it!
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If you are referring to me, I have been a subscriber for three years and found a used set of every back issue which I have loved. I don't do the length or quantity of "epic rides" like Jan (I'm not that strong of a rider), but I enjoy the stories, histories and the non-mainstream/hype-free analysis. Yes, he has a particular point of view, but he is very transparent about what it is and one can easily interpret his reviews. I have no time for/interest in regurgitated ad-copy about the latest, greatest product being pushed largely because it is new, not necessarily better.
This thread, like most others about Compass products, is turning into a bit of a dissertation on Jan.
It may look like Kool Aide to you, but it tastes like fine Scotch to me.
This thread, like most others about Compass products, is turning into a bit of a dissertation on Jan.
It may look like Kool Aide to you, but it tastes like fine Scotch to me.
And like single malts, they’re not to everyone’s taste.
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If you're OK with carrying a spare tubular, you should be OK with carrying a spare folding clincher too.
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They ride better they handle better they are signifacantly lighter than clinchers.
They must have something going for them. I bet in the Pro Peleton there wasn't one rider running Clinchers.
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Never heard of FMB's. And I have never paid more than $70 each for Tubulars. usually buy them on sale at one of the UK sites.
They ride better they handle better they are signifacantly lighter than clinchers.
They must have something going for them. I bet in the Pro Peleton there wasn't one rider running Clinchers.
They ride better they handle better they are signifacantly lighter than clinchers.
They must have something going for them. I bet in the Pro Peleton there wasn't one rider running Clinchers.
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I have never seen anyone carry a spare clincher tire. I have seen blowouts and people walking because the replacement tube popped in the big hole on the sidewall. Buy what you like. I love quality tires. If people want to make their racing bike look like a beach cruiser with big wide quality tires , that`s cool by me. To each their own.
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I find the Vitoria Corsa's or the Veloflex Criterium's are enough Tyre for me. I don't subscribe to "snake oil" or am I ever going to be riding in the TDF.
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There was a fellow at the Madison swap for a couple years selling 25mm FMB PRs for $20 each. I have 6 in my basement. He wasn't there this year.
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It's the last step in my Bianchi renewal project:
(I've since put on a blue Brooks. That blue Bianchi saddle started to separate at the back from the frame around 1988 but never got bad enough to chuck, but I finally got rid of it.) This has the Clement Strada 28mm tires I spoke of. The rims are (new) 17.5mm internal width, H+ and Son TB14 Double Walled 32 Hole Alloy Rims.
(I've since put on a blue Brooks. That blue Bianchi saddle started to separate at the back from the frame around 1988 but never got bad enough to chuck, but I finally got rid of it.) This has the Clement Strada 28mm tires I spoke of. The rims are (new) 17.5mm internal width, H+ and Son TB14 Double Walled 32 Hole Alloy Rims.
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