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Old 03-11-24, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
No, the UCI is controlled by the Romanovs.
Well that explains some of it. That must be why they kept changing the rules trying to keep Peter Sagan from winning the points race in the major tours. But that ungrateful Slav kept winning anyway!
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
In terms of the UCI they are actually owned by a cabal of lizard people who operate out of the non-existent basement of a pizza place in D.C.
Those are the exactly same creatures that control the IOC. They're working on a crossover sport that will include barely pubescent girls in painted on attire and professional cyclists.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Because it's not 1920 anymore ...
He is unaware of that.
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If sport regulating bodies never updated the rules for equipment, golfers would still be using wooden shaft clubs, various sports would still be using balls made from some part of an animal, so on and so forth. I guess, maybe cycling should only be competing on Penny Farthings.

Updating rules to evolve is not inconsistent. Inconstant would be applying the rules inconstantly. Which I'm sure happens a bit, but more due to the way individual judges apply rules. And in general rules are written to try to avoid ambiguity.

I don't really think anyone expects to compare sporting records from 100 years ago to those today. Heck, if you literally never updated rules, records would simply plateau. While you would then be able to compare a new record to an ancient one, things would get rather stagnant. It's just plain fun to have a record broken every once in a while. It keeps excitement and interest on a sport. And really, equipment advances are part of the sport. Perhaps there are some sports where equipment plays virtually no roll. But in cycling, we are riding a machine. It is literally the most significant thing defining the sport. You can't have cycling without a bicycle.

I think the UCI idea of a bike being a production bike is a pretty good way to do things. It keeps teams from being dominated by an arms race that will always be won by the team with the deepest pockets.

There's nothing keeping someone from creating the Luddite Cycling League (LCL for short).
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Sports has a vested interest in seeing records broken. Breaking records increases public interest, attendance, viewership, and clicks. More of these things means the ability to get more money from fans and sponsors. The UCI did ban “exotic” time trial bikes some years ago, like the Pinarello Sword. But the decrease in use of certain performance-enhancing substances slowed down riders. Faster bikes allow modern riders to ride faster than previous generations without chemical assistance. No one today on an early 2000’s bike could come close to matching the drug-induced performance of early 2000’s pro riders.
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I imagine the rules are set to allow participation by a good number of sponsors.

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The idea of rules is to define the basic layout of a bicycle ie upright design with 2 open wheels, crank, pedals etc and then allow natural development within that framework. It’s the same principle with motorsport technical regulations. They define a framework, but they are not intended to prevent development within that framework.

Of course the UCI could have specified that all bike frames must consist only of round, fixed diameter tubing, but they clearly decided that would be overly restrictive. Aerodynamic shapes are allowed, but there are plenty of restrictions. It is certainly not a free for all.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Because it's not 1920 anymore ...
This^
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
UCI is backed by French royalty, has been corrupt from its inception
Originally Posted by tomato coupe
No, the UCI is controlled by the Romanovs.
Originally Posted by indyfabz
Not the Hapsburgs?
You guys are all crazy. UCI is controlled by George Soros. Duh.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
You guys are all crazy. UCI is controlled by George Soros. Duh.
SOROS!!!!

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Wow. What a thread. Rydabent started it with posts by Larry, Indy, smd4, vegan, calamariachris, and Koyote. And it’s still just two pages.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
Wow. What a thread. Rydabent started it with posts by Larry, Indy, smd4, vegan, calamariachris, and Koyote. And it’s still just two pages.
Pretty much everything great about bf in one thread, right?
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
Wow. What a thread. Rydabent started it with posts by Larry, Indy, smd4, vegan, calamariachris, and Koyote. And it’s still just two pages.
Wut
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
Wow. What a thread. Rydabent started it with posts by Larry, Indy, smd4, vegan, calamariachris, and Koyote. And it’s still just two pages.
A virtual who’s who of BF. You go guys!
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Originally Posted by Koyote
You guys are all crazy. UCI is controlled by George Soros. Duh.
George Soros was born out of a marriage between the Romanovs and a powerful French Lizard family. Everybody knows that.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
Wow. What a thread. Rydabent started it with posts by Larry, Indy, smd4, vegan, calamariachris, and Koyote. And it’s still just two pages.
The moderators must feel like the LA police watching the crowd outside the movie theater on opening night of Boys n the Hood -- it's a real powder keg in the making.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Why does the OP even care about “racer boys”? On the bright side, at least it’s not another “I’m doing it righ and you’re not.” thread. Nice to see someone expand their repertoire for a change.
It’s not like they are racing bents, I don’t get his complaint.

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Originally Posted by rsbob
A virtual who’s who of BF. You go guys!
You guys weren't around when it was guys like Sydney, Operator, and some others that Tom Stormcrowe had to keep in line

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This thread was better when it was locked.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
This thread was better when it was locked.
No one is making you read it. Or post in it. But you.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
No one is making you read it. Or post in it. But you.
Was just joking around by saying the thread was more productive closed than open.
I am well aware nobody is forced to read or respond to threads, but always good to hear it stated again.
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...if Blanche DuBois posted in General Cycling, she would quickly be disabused of her notion, about depending on the kindness of strangers.

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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
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...if Blanche DuBois posted in General Cycling, she would quickly be disabused of her notion, about depending on the kindness of strangers.

*snork*

But, you know, we have had Blanche DuBois posting here about never carrying a spare tube and instead depending on getting help from strangers.
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Other than the official name, what does UCI stand for?

Unequivocal Cycling Interference?
Useless Cycling Infrastructure?
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