Don't understand Walmart's policy
03-12-18, 09:29 AM
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You know what would happen if they allowed them in don't you? Some jackleg would think it's okay to ride down the aisles, I mean it IS like 100 yards from one side to the other. Then I can see in the retirement communities a bunch of geriatrics thinking it's okay to ride their tricycles up and down the aisles. It would be a liability nightmare if just one person were allowed in.
Carry a lock with you and park your "vehicle" outside.
I was recently in the grocery store and two guys were pushing their cart and had a dog on a leash with them. A GROCERY store. Local coffee shop was FOREVER having to ask people to leave because they thought it okay to come in and sit down for coffee and muffin with their mutt attached to their arm. I love dogs and have had one or more for 35 years. I have a Golden Retriever who lives in the house, goes to work daily with me, and even occasionally sleeps in the bed with me. But it would never enter my mind to think it's okay to take her to the grocery store.
Recently read about TSA and airlines stopping someone from bringing their "therapy" peacock on board. It included other instances of people insisting on trying to board with various "therapy" animals including turkeys.
Point is, it only takes a couple of people without any commons sense to cause big problems and while most cyclists have enough common sense to push their bike through a shopping venue without issue, common sense isn't that common anymore and it's difficult to preemptively screen out the idiots.
Carry a lock with you and park your "vehicle" outside.
I was recently in the grocery store and two guys were pushing their cart and had a dog on a leash with them. A GROCERY store. Local coffee shop was FOREVER having to ask people to leave because they thought it okay to come in and sit down for coffee and muffin with their mutt attached to their arm. I love dogs and have had one or more for 35 years. I have a Golden Retriever who lives in the house, goes to work daily with me, and even occasionally sleeps in the bed with me. But it would never enter my mind to think it's okay to take her to the grocery store.
Recently read about TSA and airlines stopping someone from bringing their "therapy" peacock on board. It included other instances of people insisting on trying to board with various "therapy" animals including turkeys.
Point is, it only takes a couple of people without any commons sense to cause big problems and while most cyclists have enough common sense to push their bike through a shopping venue without issue, common sense isn't that common anymore and it's difficult to preemptively screen out the idiots.
03-12-18, 09:56 AM
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Wm's and simular big box stores I lock my bike between the outer and inner doors. There is all ways some sort of rack or something to lock up to. I never ask and have never been spoken to.
03-12-18, 10:12 AM
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Wm's and simular big box stores I lock my bike between the outer and inner doors. There is all ways some sort of rack or something to lock up to. I never ask and have never been spoken to.
03-12-18, 01:25 PM
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maybe you can write a short petition & get a few ppl you know to sign it & mail it to the store manager. no guarantees, but you might be pleasantly surprised at some point
03-12-18, 03:03 PM
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You know what would happen if they allowed them in don't you? Some jackleg would think it's okay to ride down the aisles, I mean it IS like 100 yards from one side to the other. Then I can see in the retirement communities a bunch of geriatrics thinking it's okay to ride their tricycles up and down the aisles. It would be a liability nightmare if just one person were allowed in.
Carry a lock with you and park your "vehicle" outside.
I was recently in the grocery store and two guys were pushing their cart and had a dog on a leash with them. A GROCERY store. Local coffee shop was FOREVER having to ask people to leave because they thought it okay to come in and sit down for coffee and muffin with their mutt attached to their arm. I love dogs and have had one or more for 35 years. I have a Golden Retriever who lives in the house, goes to work daily with me, and even occasionally sleeps in the bed with me. But it would never enter my mind to think it's okay to take her to the grocery store.
Recently read about TSA and airlines stopping someone from bringing their "therapy" peacock on board. It included other instances of people insisting on trying to board with various "therapy" animals including turkeys.
Point is, it only takes a couple of people without any commons sense to cause big problems and while most cyclists have enough common sense to push their bike through a shopping venue without issue, common sense isn't that common anymore and it's difficult to preemptively screen out the idiots.
Carry a lock with you and park your "vehicle" outside.
I was recently in the grocery store and two guys were pushing their cart and had a dog on a leash with them. A GROCERY store. Local coffee shop was FOREVER having to ask people to leave because they thought it okay to come in and sit down for coffee and muffin with their mutt attached to their arm. I love dogs and have had one or more for 35 years. I have a Golden Retriever who lives in the house, goes to work daily with me, and even occasionally sleeps in the bed with me. But it would never enter my mind to think it's okay to take her to the grocery store.
Recently read about TSA and airlines stopping someone from bringing their "therapy" peacock on board. It included other instances of people insisting on trying to board with various "therapy" animals including turkeys.
Point is, it only takes a couple of people without any commons sense to cause big problems and while most cyclists have enough common sense to push their bike through a shopping venue without issue, common sense isn't that common anymore and it's difficult to preemptively screen out the idiots.
The idea of a "therapy" peacock is totally ridiculous and an abuse of the system.
03-13-18, 04:36 AM
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Don't understand Walmart's policy
I don't carry a lock, even for my expensive carbon fiber bike. I have posted about doing errands by bike in the context of Living Car Free, but I’m flexible about it, and I accept the premise posted by @WNCGoater.
Not me. 
I'm well known at our local supermarket so I'm welcome to bring in the bike. I don't usually walk it through the aisles, and the cashiers at the front watch it for me. Usually I go early in the morning, so there's no hassle with crowds.My girlfriend and I were on a tour many years ago , and we were refused a campsite because the owner had that same fear we would pilfer something and ride silently away. I’m sure RV’s could carry off much more.
I did argue that the campground was rated by the AAA, and I was a member. The owner’s wife was more sympathetic, and we got to stay.
BTW, there is one unavoidable errand over which I have less control.
…I go to my local Walmart to pick up some items and the door greeter stops me and says bikes aren't allowed inside. I ask…How is me pushing a bicycle slowly by my side dangerous. So I left after he threatened to call security when I asked why.
…I'm a little mixed about bringing bikes inside. If it is wet and muddy outside, then the bike stays outside...
…One or two bikes...maybe even ten bikes in the store at a time probably wouldn't be a problem. If they ever got 100 bikes rolling around the store, that might seem a bit excessive.
Most of my riding is bike commuting, so if I'm expecting to stop, I'll bring a lock. However, if I'm heading out to visit friends or family, or doing a "fun ride", I may leave the lock at home.
You know what would happen if they allowed them in don't you? Some jackleg would think it's okay to ride down the aisles, I mean it IS like 100 yards from one side to the other…
Point is, it only takes a couple of people without any common sense to cause big problems and while most cyclists have enough common sense to push their bike through a shopping venue without issue, common sense isn't that common anymore and it's difficult to preemptively screen out the idiots.
Point is, it only takes a couple of people without any common sense to cause big problems and while most cyclists have enough common sense to push their bike through a shopping venue without issue, common sense isn't that common anymore and it's difficult to preemptively screen out the idiots.
...I park my bikes in our condo at home, inside near my office at work, and I bring it into any place I need to stop while en route. If I have to do an errand requiring a prolonged stop where I can't bring the bike under my observation I don't do that errand by bike.
…We live near the transportation hub of Kenmore Square. Our easily accessible Car-free / Car-light modalities at home and work [include]:
- shopping and personal services within walking distances
Most cyclists have enough sense to bring an appropriate locking device with them when shopping or going to a restaurant, and then there are those who don't carry appropriate locks who will b**ch, gripe, complain, moan and groan about those who do not share their bicycle obsession and need to keep the precious bicycle within arm's length at all times.
I'm well known at our local supermarket so I'm welcome to bring in the bike. I don't usually walk it through the aisles, and the cashiers at the front watch it for me. Usually I go early in the morning, so there's no hassle with crowds.My girlfriend and I were on a tour many years ago , and we were refused a campsite because the owner had that same fear we would pilfer something and ride silently away. I’m sure RV’s could carry off much more. I did argue that the campground was rated by the AAA, and I was a member. The owner’s wife was more sympathetic, and we got to stay.
BTW, there is one unavoidable errand over which I have less control.
... I do believe that at any lock can be defeated, so I don’t carry one to save the weight and volume. BTW, when I’m out for a long day’s ride, the only time I might abandon my bike is for a bathroom stop. By the time I need one, I’m usually out in the suburbs, where everyone travels by car, and would have to load my bike to flee.
I always stop at a fast food restaurant and bring the bike inside, and quickly do my business (don’t even wash my hands
). Outdoor pit stops in relatively populous Metro Boston does carry some risk for arrest as a level 3 sex offender.
Furthermore, I figure I’m conspicuous as I clack-clack-clack in cycling attire across the floor, and a would-be thief would be conspicuous as not-the-owner of my bike.
I do admit that threads like this make me nervous, and maybe I’ll start carrying a light cable lock this season as a deterrent for those quickstops (or bring the bike all the way in).
I always stop at a fast food restaurant and bring the bike inside, and quickly do my business (don’t even wash my hands
). Outdoor pit stops in relatively populous Metro Boston does carry some risk for arrest as a level 3 sex offender. Furthermore, I figure I’m conspicuous as I clack-clack-clack in cycling attire across the floor, and a would-be thief would be conspicuous as not-the-owner of my bike.
I do admit that threads like this make me nervous, and maybe I’ll start carrying a light cable lock this season as a deterrent for those quickstops (or bring the bike all the way in).
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03-13-18, 10:49 AM
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No outside racks, so i had to hang my bike off a lamp post.
I was decent about it and so was the greeter, but he didn't have any clue about why I shouldn't lock my bike inside in a corner where it wouldn't have been in anyone's way---it wasn't even the only bench.
Stuff happens. A Walmart greeter probably hasn't got much going on---that's why I didn't want to argue with the guy. He probably needed to assert himself regardless of the rules--and probably had the rules on his side anyway.
No store needs my business. I simply don't buy much.
But no store has anything I need that I can't get elsewhere.
03-13-18, 10:52 AM
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It's crazy that a rider can't even lock up in the lobby when they are no racks.
Here's a crazy one, though ... my Bank let me bring my bike in and lean it against something.
I would have expected maximal stick-up-the-butt-edness at a bank.
03-13-18, 11:19 AM
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I am sure this is it---everything that is not compulsory is forbidden---keeps insurance costs down.
It's crazy that a rider can't even lock up in the lobby when they are no racks.
Here's a crazy one, though ... my Bank let me bring my bike in and lean it against something.
I would have expected maximal stick-up-the-butt-edness at a bank.
It's crazy that a rider can't even lock up in the lobby when they are no racks.
Here's a crazy one, though ... my Bank let me bring my bike in and lean it against something.
I would have expected maximal stick-up-the-butt-edness at a bank.
I thought of something else ... the folks on these forums seems to be considerate, responsible, respectful bunch of people that wouldn't cause an issue bringing their bike inside ... however, there are people out there that are the complete opposite so it could boil down to also being an "all or none" kinda deal to not discriminate or play babysitter.
Back to the liability issue thing i can also imagine someone leaving their bike unattended while looking at merchandise and then a rouge toddler not being watched manages to topple the bike over on them and get seriously hurt.
Me personally ... i've brought by bike in some places but just use my best judgement (ie. my barber is cool with me bringing my bike in because there really isnt anywhere to lock it up other than lamp posts or trees but my bike doesnt have a kickstand so thats a royal pain) I wouldn't attempt walmart or anywhere with a greeter.
03-13-18, 03:44 PM
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It depends on how much money you have in your account. If you bring in an old beater bike with baskets full of aluminum cans and you look like you live under the bike, then they might not be so accommodating.
03-13-18, 04:37 PM
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LOL ... my bike is okay but I definitely look homeless .... Maybe they were scared to say anything.
03-13-18, 09:16 PM
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They're not idiots...just most people nowadays have no respect for authority. It's a beginning of breaking down of civil society.
Like I've been seeing alot of drivers stop for a red light, look around for cops, and then run the red light.
This stuff used to happen only in 3rd world countries.
Like I've been seeing alot of drivers stop for a red light, look around for cops, and then run the red light.
This stuff used to happen only in 3rd world countries.
Your comment made me chuckle! I like the idea of bringing bikes into Wally Mart leading to the breakdown of civil society.
"Authority" has no respect for people so why would people have respect for "authority". If a cop can run red lights (not during an actual incident but just to get out of waiting, which I see frequently near me) why should I wait? They are supposed to be law enforcers and if they aren't following the law...
Also 3rd world countries is an outdated Cold War term referring to countries not aligned with either the U.S. and its allies or the Soviet Union and its allies. The Cold War is long over and most things happen all over the world regardless of the countries affiliation during the Cold War.
People like to think that "oh in West Bugleboy they are all savages because of something" but generally that sort of stuff happens where they live as well. West Bugleboy is not an actual country, in case someone thought it might be but those who enjoy Family Guy might laugh at the reference. There are certainly some practices that exist in other countries but generally bad behavior that humans exhibit is pretty universal. I don't think you will find a country on the planet that doesn't have people running red lights (or whatever their version of the stop light or sign is) I mean unless the place doesn't have any cars or stop signals.
03-14-18, 06:46 AM
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I've walked my bike into a Home Depot and a WalMart near the bike trails I ride around Pontiac MI. Neither had bike racks or convenient places to lock a bike, and both are within an area where things will disappear if left unattended. Never had anyone say anything to me.
03-14-18, 06:57 AM
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Dude, I wouldn't be afraid of you, but your beard could eat three people. No wonder no one wanted to challenge you. 
03-14-18, 09:13 AM
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As far as service animals. The ADA once protected a small subset of animals, it now only protects service dogs. People bringing exotic animals as service animals were never protected and never will be.
https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...es_Act_of_1990
Title 2 and 3 cover all public places(Including planes.) Title 1 covers employment, so in theory a disabled person might be able to get/use a non conventional service animal in a place of employment.
Service Animal laws in most other countries are considerably more strict.
https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...es_Act_of_1990
Title 2 and 3 cover all public places(Including planes.) Title 1 covers employment, so in theory a disabled person might be able to get/use a non conventional service animal in a place of employment.
Service Animal laws in most other countries are considerably more strict.
03-18-18, 09:28 PM
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Nothing I really need and got tired of being shuffled from checkstand to checkstand just as I was getting there.
We used to have a Kmart and we also have a Bi-Mart membership discount store which I've shopped at since 1981.
We have Albertsons, a former Safeway that went to United Grocers (Western Family), a Grocery Outlet and a small reboot of Waremart by Winco Foods.
I really have little to do with Walmart and there is a Dollartree across the street from it anyhow.
We used to have a Kmart and we also have a Bi-Mart membership discount store which I've shopped at since 1981.
We have Albertsons, a former Safeway that went to United Grocers (Western Family), a Grocery Outlet and a small reboot of Waremart by Winco Foods.
I really have little to do with Walmart and there is a Dollartree across the street from it anyhow.
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03-22-18, 10:41 AM
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Ok, so I'm getting back into cycling commuting again after a break and gaining a few pounds (yikes). I go to my local Walmart to pick up some items and the door greeter stops me and says bikes aren't allowed inside. I ask why since they one they sell bikes, two shopping carts are allowed, three handicap motor scooters are zooming around and four they don't have any bike racks. How is me pushing a bicycle slowly by my side dangerous. So I left after he threatened to call security when I asked why.
03-22-18, 11:14 PM
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Walmart doesn't want cyclists! They want huge SUVs so you can cram half the store into the back. It's called capitalism.
You could always chain up to some lamp pole at 2 am.
You could always chain up to some lamp pole at 2 am.
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At 2AM I do indeed cable lock my grocery grabber Magna 7spd to a pole outside the entrance of the 24 hour Walmart instead of at the bike rack. Take my removable basket inside with me and shop in relative peace and quiet. Never has bringing the GG Bike into WM or any other store crossed my mind.
03-26-18, 03:21 AM
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We got the very first WM superstore in the valley, so people used to come in at 3 am (but mostly 30-45 year old guys playing the Xbox demo until it broke again and people who wanted to get groceries without much hassle. After there were at least 10 of them and nobody was coming just because there is no sales tax it started closing from midnight to 6 am.
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Because I don't have a car and walking is not as easy, which is why I've got six.
I can't vouch for them but I also don't shop at Walmart anyway.
And the McDonalds across the street got remodeled, then a Starbucks went in between it and the Burger King and now the former Kmart lot is not very bike friendly anymore. If I'm going over that way it's for the dollar store.
I can't vouch for them but I also don't shop at Walmart anyway.
And the McDonalds across the street got remodeled, then a Starbucks went in between it and the Burger King and now the former Kmart lot is not very bike friendly anymore. If I'm going over that way it's for the dollar store.
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