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Will GRX handle a 11-46 cassette?

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Old 10-11-19, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Do I misunderstand what power means? Isn't it true that for a given hill, you need the same amount of power to get up that hill, regardless of what gearing you have? I suppose the limiting factor is speed you're going and if you can keep the bike upright at eg. sub 3mph speeds or whatnot.
Yea if you have lower gearing you can decrease the power you put out. I'm the master of 50-60rpm 4mph slow grind in my 34x40 to keep power down
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Do I misunderstand what power means? Isn't it true that for a given hill, you need the same amount of power to get up that hill, regardless of what gearing you have?
Lower gearing does not reduce the power required to climb at a given speed, but it does reduce the torque that the rider needs to deliver to keep the pedals turning over. Obviously it's technically possible to climb in a huge gear at very lower power, but going up a 15% gradient in a 50-11 is very strenuous even if you're going very slow and only delivering 50W, because your legs are having to press a huge amount of force on the pedals to keep moving forward at all. A lower gear makes lower-power lower-speed climbing more practical.

I suppose the limiting factor is speed you're going and if you can keep the bike upright at eg. sub 3mph speeds or whatnot.
Yes, although "sub 3mph" isn't that big of a deal unless you're on a recumbent. It's awkward to ride at those speeds on level ground with low resistance, but when you're actually rolling power through the pedals up a hill, riding a road bike at sub-3mph isn't hard. My speeds drop below 3mph occasionally on my gravel bike, and that's on steep rutted stuff where my rear wheel is on the edge of slipping and I'm bouncing off of stones, vastly harder than riding similar speeds on a paved hill.
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Probably a large majority of people who ride any kind of mountainous stuff. In my area, we've got plenty of gravel climbs that average 12% or more over a mile at a time. And check out this gorgeous road that one of my friends recently found:



I suppose "need" is a strong word, but if it's a question of what's optimal, I actually think that most road bikes in hilly areas should come with ratios of 1:1 or lower, whether intended for gravel or otherwise. Even in the paved lowlands around here, I see tons of people badly bottomed out on their gearing during climbs, and people avoiding very fun roads simply because the gradients get steep. That's awful.
Ideally, common chainring combinations would span a much wider range than they currently do. From what I can tell, a majority of people on road bikes have very little use for the top-end on modern road bikes. For the weaker riders, a 42-26 or even 40-24 would offer adequate top-end in a 1x-plus-granny scheme, while permitting a comfortably tight-spaced cassette.
This have been an issue for decades. We are slowly incing closer, but in reality only mtb offer proper gearing for steep roads. Shimano should offer a 30/46 crank and a 11-40 cassette in the road lineup*. - Maybe in the Ultegra 2029 edition ... :-)

*or simply make mtb and road parts cross compatible.
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I'm new so I can't post any links yet, but check out the corvid map on bikepacking.com, it uses GRX in combination with an 11-46 cassette.
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As it turns out the Evil Chamois Hagar uses an 11-46 so I think I'm good.
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Originally Posted by HTupolev

I suppose "need" is a strong word, but if it's a question of what's optimal, I actually think that most road bikes in hilly areas should come with ratios of 1:1 or lower, whether intended for gravel or otherwise. Even in the paved lowlands around here, I see tons of people badly bottomed out on their gearing during climbs, and people avoiding very fun roads simply because the gradients get steep. That's awful.
+1. I laugh when I see old articles that say “this bike comes with a 52/36 and 11-28 gearing! So you can ride up any hill you want with ease!” Absurd. I guarantee you 1:1 gearing is gonna become standard even on performance oriented road bikes within 5 years.
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Originally Posted by avg
I'm new so I can't post any links yet, but check out the corvid map on bikepacking.com, it uses GRX in combination with an 11-46 cassette.
Welcome to BikeForums, avg! 👍

Yes, you need a certain number of posts before you can post links, they do that to cut down on the forum spam.

Here's the link to that sweet MAP (More Adventure Please) bike: https://bikepacking.com/bikes/corvid-cycles-map/
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