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Old 04-04-23, 05:33 PM
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A lot of bikes that came with 27" wheels can also be converted to 650B and take 38mm or sometimes 42mm wide tires. They need long reach brakes like Dia-compe/Weinmann 750s or MAFAC Raids. What size frame are you looking for? Does anyone over 60 really need a nine speed rear cassette?
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Wow, that's neat- especially the crank/chainring!
Thats a very nice looking saddle, what brand/model is it?
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Here's my 1990-ish Bianchi Volpe running a 43 up front, a 40 in the rear, and a 2x11 drivetrain.
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The one-year-only 1985 Trek 620 is one I'll add to the list. Takes an honest 39-40mm tire--I ran Soma Supple Vitesse EX 42's on DT Swiss R460 rims (22.7-23.0mm wide, externally). Can be done with fenders even!

1982 Trek 720 (caliper, not canti) is another bike I have that can fit those same tires, albeit on slimmer MA2 rims for a 38mm overall tire width. 1985 Fuji del Rey can hold those tires as well.

Like you, OP, hills are for the birds, but I don't want to go all in on slow gearing and lose the top end when I get to the top of the hill and want to fly down it!
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Originally Posted by ironwood
Does anyone over 60 really need a nine speed rear cassette?
Why would you say that?
I personally like a 12x36 9 speed myself, either 1x9 or 2x9. And I am 66yo.

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My old PKN-10, now my son's kiddie-puller, although the boys are getting big for the trailer now.

1980 Peugeot PKN-10 with 700Cx35 tires

Also, any of my 1960s frames (Capos, Carlton)
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Originally Posted by bwilli88
Why would you say that?
I personally like a 12x36 9 speed myself, either 1x9 or 2x9. And I am 66yo.
I think 9 speed is the perfect combination of price and utility currently, as well as access to quality parts. I feel like there are far more 9 speed parts on the market than there are 8 speed, especially when it comes to road.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
scarlson has put together a good list. All on it should do what you want.

Also, you might check out some 1960s racing frames. Wait, hear me out.
Yep, This is my 1960 Capo racer which probably came with 27s. It's now running 700c x 35mm Gravelking ACs. The next step will be a TA Specialites triple so my lowest gear will be 28/32, very fitting for a gentleman of my age. I basically use it as a gravel bike.

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My '85 Rocky Mountain Giro will (surprisingly) accept a 32 no problem, however, my '91 SoftRide Columbus will definitely not.
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Originally Posted by ironwood
A lot of bikes that came with 27" wheels can also be converted to 650B and take 38mm or sometimes 42mm wide tires. They need long reach brakes like Dia-compe/Weinmann 750s or MAFAC Raids. What size frame are you looking for? Does anyone over 60 really need a nine speed rear cassette?
My 1983 Fuji Gran Tourer SE swallows a set of 700x38's and sez gimme more.
You probably want to look a model up and get the better dropouts.
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My '85 720 with 32mm gp5000s and Honjos


Fenderless and maxed out w/ 700x40mm Vittoria Terreno Dry
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Does anyone know if a Trek 400 Elance with triple crankset would meet my requirements as I listed in my opening thread? There is one listed on Marketplace in South China Maine. It is mispelled as a TREX. Listed in Hobbies. No frame size is listed. I am looking for a 22 inch or 56CM. It looks like it may be close. At least to my eye. I don't have a facebook account, my wife sent a message asking the seller to call me tomorrow. Round trip to view would be about 2 1/2 hours. I would appreciate any input or advice. Thanks!
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this is a great thread. Loved that Umberto Dei !

I would suggest Raleigh International using 700 X 32 is an easy fit

be careful on spreading the rear drops over 126mm

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