What happened to my carbon frame?
09-12-16, 06:51 PM
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What exactly does this mean?
Production process from what I could find, not hand made one by one but a production process was first done in 1986 by Kestrel that wasn't a lugged design which was done first by Exxon Graftek in 1975. There is nothing that I could find showing that Jamis pioneered some sort of manufacturing process with carbon. All Jamis says is that they pioneered a supposedly new radical manufacturing process that delivers the lightest, stiffest, most aero road bikes...and here's the key phrase...'WE'VE EVER PRODUCED". So in other words it's only new and radical to them and not to the rest of the world.
Production process from what I could find, not hand made one by one but a production process was first done in 1986 by Kestrel that wasn't a lugged design which was done first by Exxon Graftek in 1975. There is nothing that I could find showing that Jamis pioneered some sort of manufacturing process with carbon. All Jamis says is that they pioneered a supposedly new radical manufacturing process that delivers the lightest, stiffest, most aero road bikes...and here's the key phrase...'WE'VE EVER PRODUCED". So in other words it's only new and radical to them and not to the rest of the world.
My response was to someone who made this claim:
"Jamis has its roots in steel going back over 3 decades, and this specific series (Renegade) is only a year old."
That's misleading since Jamis has been producing carbon frames for much longer than a year.
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09-12-16, 07:01 PM
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I think that this crashing thing should be limited to road bikes because the original poster was discussing damage done to his road bike, not a mtb, or a cross bike, or some other bike. I agree crashing is higher with MTB riders or Cross riders if they're riding off road just due to the nature of the terrain that would naturally lead to more crashes.
09-12-16, 09:02 PM
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09-12-16, 09:11 PM
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09-12-16, 10:08 PM
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My statement wasn't a generalization, go back and re-read it. It was directed at one person.
And most crashes don't even involve motorists so why scope lock on them? I haven't crashed a bike as an adult but I had a racer out of a pack thought he could turn directly across in front of me one day and he ended up over my bonnet. No injury to him thankfully, and you could reason that he was tired and distracted by the pace, but he was 100% at fault.
Don't you think time for you to get off the teat and stop looking for people to blame for your errors.
And most crashes don't even involve motorists so why scope lock on them? I haven't crashed a bike as an adult but I had a racer out of a pack thought he could turn directly across in front of me one day and he ended up over my bonnet. No injury to him thankfully, and you could reason that he was tired and distracted by the pace, but he was 100% at fault.
Don't you think time for you to get off the teat and stop looking for people to blame for your errors.
what errors of mine need blaming anyway? as I stated, I haven't had a crash since I was a kid. That's been about 6-7 years since I got back on a bike as an adult. thankfully that has involved zero accidents.
09-13-16, 09:38 AM
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Methinks the crash issue has been settled to the best possible degree and we need to cut our losses on that one .... one at the bottom of a deep hole who shouts out, "Throw me down that rope------with a shovel tied to the end" is not his own best friend.
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Did they agree it was a defect, or was it a customer retention type of decision?
06-18-17, 11:42 AM
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Bah! That little scratch will buff right out! Note: This is a zombie thread, so the issue has likely been resolved one way or another. (Am I going to have to read through 13 pages of posts to find out?)
06-18-17, 11:58 AM
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Both. Bianchi is not likely to warranty a crash, though no harm asking, since they may offer a deeply discounted replacement out of sympathy.
As for the thread, any moment the "ride CF and die!" folks will find it, and tell you all the reasons CF is dangerous and unpredictable.
BTW, it's possible, even likely, that the frame didn't fracture because your knee hit it, but if the circumstances of the crash were right, your knee might have acted as a fulcrum with both ends of the tube bent across it. Not saying that's what happened, just that I don't think a knee bump alone caused the damage.
As for the thread, any moment the "ride CF and die!" folks will find it, and tell you all the reasons CF is dangerous and unpredictable.
BTW, it's possible, even likely, that the frame didn't fracture because your knee hit it, but if the circumstances of the crash were right, your knee might have acted as a fulcrum with both ends of the tube bent across it. Not saying that's what happened, just that I don't think a knee bump alone caused the damage.
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