Tom Toles's cartoon about NYC killing uses a bicyclist as victim
11-06-17, 12:16 PM
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11-06-17, 01:13 PM
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The cartoonist was expressing his political point of view that trump blames immigration immediately but then doesn't blame gun control when non first generation immigrant Vegas attack happened. But regardless of what side you sway to.....Nothing can stop crazy til crazy shows its face, Not trump, immigration reform, gun control, bollards, etc...
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11-07-17, 10:00 AM
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11-07-17, 10:01 AM
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11-07-17, 10:05 AM
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Your argument is one of the stupidest ever. If Christopher Columbus had not come to the United States, then none of us would be here and this terrorist attack also would not have occurred. So was it Christopher Columbus's fault that there was a terrorist attack that killed by cyclists?
I would have been here.
Now, you've achieved the award for "stupidest argument ever". Well done.
He came here during the Obama regime. You're welcome.
Double-plus lol!
11-07-17, 12:50 PM
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What I've read about the (only) two Americans killed in the Greenway truck attack:
Both were riding CitiBikes,
One was from NJ, one from NYC
One 6'4", one 6'3",
Both are the only child of their parents,
One was a "miracle baby" born after his parents tried 12 years to have a baby, the other one's birth nearly cost his mother's life.
The one from NYC (age 23) had lost his father to suicide 4 years ago.
Both were riding CitiBikes,
One was from NJ, one from NYC
One 6'4", one 6'3",
Both are the only child of their parents,
One was a "miracle baby" born after his parents tried 12 years to have a baby, the other one's birth nearly cost his mother's life.
The one from NYC (age 23) had lost his father to suicide 4 years ago.
11-08-17, 07:21 PM
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I have heard that morbid jokes and laughing at them after tragedy are actually psychologically needed. It's one of the first signs that a person/social group/society as a whole are moving past the initial shock and grief and returning to normal.
11-09-17, 08:24 AM
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That may well be true, but, whatever we, in the USA, are "returning to" sure ain't "normal"!
11-09-17, 09:59 AM
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Trump is President, so now he owns National Security and he is not doing anything to protect us, because he is too busy tweeting garbage and not doing his job as president.
11-18-17, 05:41 AM
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Your argument is one of the stupidest ever. If Christopher Columbus had not come to the United States, then none of us would be here and this terrorist attack also would not have occurred. So was it Christopher Columbus's fault that there was a terrorist attack that killed by cyclists?
Trump is a brainless child that has to immediately blame anybody and everybody for the problems that are going on.
Why isn't Trump stopping terrorism. It's Trump's fault that this guy was able to commit a terrorist act. Why isn't Trump protecting us.
I'll tell you why, because he's much more concerned about his ego then on the American people.
Why do you hate America so much that you are behind Trump?
Trump is a brainless child that has to immediately blame anybody and everybody for the problems that are going on.
Why isn't Trump stopping terrorism. It's Trump's fault that this guy was able to commit a terrorist act. Why isn't Trump protecting us.
I'll tell you why, because he's much more concerned about his ego then on the American people.
Why do you hate America so much that you are behind Trump?
11-18-17, 10:49 AM
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Trump should actually work instead of spewing childish imbecile tweets.
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11-18-17, 12:58 PM
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Ultimately it doesn't matter who was president when someone entered the country. The president does not personally interview and sign off on everyone seeking visas, permanent residency and citizenship.
Now as far as the laws and regulations, they can and probably have caught many would-be terrorists, as well as would-be violent criminals. But if someone has not acted upon their views, a sleeper agent (to go back to a term from my youth), we don't really have a way to screen hearts and minds. Keep your mouth shut and immigration could be fooled into thinking you truly believe in world peace, freedom to worship the FSM and that true happiness comes from sharing your unicorn frappuccino.
And then there are the converts. People who genuinely came to this country for whatever reason and after arriving became radicalized. Whether it is a lashing back at discrimination, whether it's the feeling there's a spiritual void and finding a good orator that fills that void, whether it's trying to justify bigotry, the bottom line is they really did share their unicorn frappuccinos at first and only later succumbed to the Dark Side. There is no way whatsoever that immigration policies could have weeded those people out. And in the case of Muslim extremists, they aren't anyone special. Radicalized people can be homegrown and follow all sorts of belief structures. Timothy McVeigh, who blew up a daycare center. The Atlanta Olympics bomber. People who bomb abortion clinics and shoot doctors. The people who seized a BLM building in Oregon (who shockingly were acquitted). Ruby Ridge. David Koresh. I will even lump in Columbine, since that certainly succeeded in becoming a terror activity.
Edit: I thought of another group of radicalized people that are just as dangerous but no one ever talks about them. The angst-filled teenagers who don't know what the heck they believe and are making it up as they go along, with everyone in the group worsening each other's behavior through peer pressure, and then they go and do a ritualistic satanic murder or five, or think they are vampires and kill people for blood or whatever else is going through their extremist brains at the moment.
Now as far as the laws and regulations, they can and probably have caught many would-be terrorists, as well as would-be violent criminals. But if someone has not acted upon their views, a sleeper agent (to go back to a term from my youth), we don't really have a way to screen hearts and minds. Keep your mouth shut and immigration could be fooled into thinking you truly believe in world peace, freedom to worship the FSM and that true happiness comes from sharing your unicorn frappuccino.
And then there are the converts. People who genuinely came to this country for whatever reason and after arriving became radicalized. Whether it is a lashing back at discrimination, whether it's the feeling there's a spiritual void and finding a good orator that fills that void, whether it's trying to justify bigotry, the bottom line is they really did share their unicorn frappuccinos at first and only later succumbed to the Dark Side. There is no way whatsoever that immigration policies could have weeded those people out. And in the case of Muslim extremists, they aren't anyone special. Radicalized people can be homegrown and follow all sorts of belief structures. Timothy McVeigh, who blew up a daycare center. The Atlanta Olympics bomber. People who bomb abortion clinics and shoot doctors. The people who seized a BLM building in Oregon (who shockingly were acquitted). Ruby Ridge. David Koresh. I will even lump in Columbine, since that certainly succeeded in becoming a terror activity.
Edit: I thought of another group of radicalized people that are just as dangerous but no one ever talks about them. The angst-filled teenagers who don't know what the heck they believe and are making it up as they go along, with everyone in the group worsening each other's behavior through peer pressure, and then they go and do a ritualistic satanic murder or five, or think they are vampires and kill people for blood or whatever else is going through their extremist brains at the moment.
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