5-SPEED FW's: Who is still riding 10-speed?
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I make a point of keeping any frames I get with 120mm spacing in the 5-speed configuration. I've got enough 126mm frames in the collection to take care of my 6-speed interest (which is almost totally subjugated to my obsession for Rossins), and I've found that the lack of one rear cog doesn't make all that much difference in a 20 mile ride. Besides, my coming back into the cycling hobby was almost completely predicated on reliving my 'glory days' in Erie, PA fifty years ago.
Come to think of it, my newest bike anymore (and the only one I own with brifters) is a 3x7 drivetrain.
Come to think of it, my newest bike anymore (and the only one I own with brifters) is a 3x7 drivetrain.
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Wow a lot of use still ride ride a 10 speed. I actually quite enjoy only five in the back. I live in a great place for riding with lots of flat and rolling hills. I found myself in in 17,19,21 most of the time so I went to 14-24 with 34x46 in front. If I hit the hills or go climb the mountains in our area I throw on a 13-28, good to go.
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I'll use whatever fits a given frame, and in case of an Eroica bike, whatever is sorta-kinda appropriate for the bike and still gets me up a modest hill. And 5-speed freewheels are readily available and affordable, so probably half of my bikes are equipped with them.
For Eroica-type events I want a short cage RD, and a 14-28 usually works with those. My legs prefer to combine it with a "vintage compact" crank set. In this case a 50/37 Stronglight:
For touring purposes I am less fussy and often combine them with a long cage derailleur and a triple crank set:
For Eroica-type events I want a short cage RD, and a 14-28 usually works with those. My legs prefer to combine it with a "vintage compact" crank set. In this case a 50/37 Stronglight:
For touring purposes I am less fussy and often combine them with a long cage derailleur and a triple crank set:
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I'll use whatever fits a given frame, and in case of an Eroica bike, whatever is sorta-kinda appropriate for the bike and still gets me up a modest hill. And 5-speed freewheels are readily available and affordable, so probably half of my bikes are equipped with them.
For Eroica-type events I want a short cage RD, and a 14-28 usually works with those. My legs prefer to combine it with a "vintage compact" crank set. In this case a 50/37 Stronglight:
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For touring purposes I am less fussy and often combine them with a long cage derailleur and a triple crank set:
For Eroica-type events I want a short cage RD, and a 14-28 usually works with those. My legs prefer to combine it with a "vintage compact" crank set. In this case a 50/37 Stronglight:
snip . . .
For touring purposes I am less fussy and often combine them with a long cage derailleur and a triple crank set:
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Beautiful bike. I'm thinking of doing something similar with a stronglight 93. Those are beautiful cranks. Still if I go with a stronglight 99, I can run a 48/34. Decisions, decisions. . . . That's the thing about 5 speed freewheels, you have to think about your gearing if you're running that bike anywhere with decent hills.
The 99 (and its SR Apex copy) are nice cranks. The 86 BCD lets you go as low as 28T. With the right outer ring you can hide your baby inner nicely. This is a 50/30, IIRC, on one of mrs non-fixie's bikes:
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actually, I had to go check. The freewheels on bikes in the garage/house, not the bears in our forest who occasionally shat in my yard.
On road bikes with frames earlier than 1990:
5 speed = 6
6 speed = 8
7 speed = 3
9 speed = 1 Campy Ergo
of the 18, 4 are not road worthy.
All but 2 are friction shifters. I like easy.
Also have my 'modern' 4 roadies with Campy 10 Ergo. CF, Ti + 2 steel frames between '99 - '04.
On road bikes with frames earlier than 1990:
5 speed = 6
6 speed = 8
7 speed = 3
9 speed = 1 Campy Ergo
of the 18, 4 are not road worthy.
All but 2 are friction shifters. I like easy.
Also have my 'modern' 4 roadies with Campy 10 Ergo. CF, Ti + 2 steel frames between '99 - '04.
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I have true old school 10 speeds on the '73 Grand Prix and '75 Continental, and I'm using the original 888 perfect freewheel on the just completed '76 Fuji S-10S I'm using as a single speed. There's enough horizonal dropout space where I can alternate between the 14 & 17 cogs without messing with the chain. >>> SNIP >>>
• Q: How many teeth are on the chain-wheel?
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The Barnard and the Grubb (I ride the Grubb more than any other bike) both have a 4-speed freewheel. The Grubb has a double crank, but the Barnard is a single. My Manufrance (I ride often) has a 5-speed with a triple up front. I agree with iab: More than three speeds is probably just an indulgence. As long as you have the gear range you need, the number of speeds really doesn't matter. You could get a 3-speed freewheel with 13-18-28T from Benelux in the 1940's-50's.
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Kind of amusing asking if members on a vintage bike forum still ride a 10 speed though I can understand wanting to know. My early '60's French Peschi runs a 14 - 26T Regina freewheel ( though I should check, it could be 28 T ) and for the most part I can still ride hills where I live using the 42 T inner chainring though perhaps I just might look for say a 36 or 38 T if they are out there.
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Kind of amusing asking if members on a vintage bike forum still ride a 10 speed though I can understand wanting to know. My early '60's French Peschi runs a 14 - 26T Regina freewheel ( though I should check, it could be 28 T ) and for the most part I can still ride hills where I live using the 42 T inner chainring though perhaps I just might look for say a 36 or 38 T if they are out there.
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I still have 8 of them Granted, a few have gearing that limits where I ride a bit, but they aren't dead yet.
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I wish my dad was still round to ask him stuff. I'm sure he'd agree with you. He was a Canadian attached to the RAF for the duration. He spent many of his off-duty hours riding around the countryside in Worcestershire on a racing Bates. He joined a local cycling club. He said the members road fast and furiously as if racing, and one could hear them changing gears almost in unison. The first glimpse my WAAF mother had of her future husband was when he flashed by her hut on his Bates. Mum had a heavy RAF issue bike, so Dad built up a lightweight machine so they could get around together. After they were married, they lived in an old coaching inn off base and commuted to RAF Defford rain or shine on their bikes, They recounted how they would ride to countryside pubs to drink the local cider. But, they never told me about their drive trains. I doubt it was "luxury". ))))
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Now, Tokyo is a different story — especially around Shibuya where walking around the streets is like visiting a cycling museum! And there are clubs doing weekend rides on really quite ancient machines. (C.F. "Dawesman" in the archives.)
Anyway, I'm sure enjoying this thread and finding out and learning the details of exactly how members have set up their bikes.
BTW: love that blue hue on your frame. I think it's easy for dark blues to look sort of dead.
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My "his & hers" (well, used to be) '75 Raleigh Gran Sports are 2x5, haven't ridden mine in way too long. I just bought a Nishiki touring bike, an '87 Cresta, but it came stock with a 5-speed freewhel (guessing they opted for 5-speed so the 40-spoke rear wheel would have less dish, for loaded touring strength) But it was a 15-speed, came stock with a 28-38-48 triple. And I just couldn't resist taking advantage of the fact that the first-gen Suntour indexed dowtube shifters (before they even called them "Accushift") was made for 6-speed, so I swapped in a new axle and used 6-speed freewheel.
The 14-30 5-speed was just fine, I just wanted to try the 6-speed shifting, and the 6-speed is 13-30 and I use that 48/13 at times.
Some of my older boom-ish bikes (World Sport, Centurion Omega, a coupla Suburbans) are 5-speed, but they're just waiting to be flipped. Rest of my roadies are 6 and 7.
The 14-30 5-speed was just fine, I just wanted to try the 6-speed shifting, and the 6-speed is 13-30 and I use that 48/13 at times.
Some of my older boom-ish bikes (World Sport, Centurion Omega, a coupla Suburbans) are 5-speed, but they're just waiting to be flipped. Rest of my roadies are 6 and 7.
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Improved my shifts by swapping a suntour onto this regular 5x2 ride. Seemed like the stocker had been twisted. So improved, I have a Suntour Honor r/d ordered for another Schwinn 10 speed with taller gearing-maybe its a SuperSport (?), and then I have a Nishiki Competition, as the few ten speeds I ride.
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I've got few:
1. Cilo Pacer, my commuter, the bike I ride most frequently.
2. Gitane Gran Tourisme, if triples are allowed.
3. Speedwell Titalite
4. Peugeot PR10
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Remember, derailleur-equipped bikes weren't allowed in the Tour de France until 1937, and for the first several years thereafter, bikes with multiple sprockets would have had single chainrings. A rider with a 49/14 gear combination (and a 46/18 on the low end) would have had a big advantage over a rider with a single-speed bike. And that 49/14 gear combination would have felt plenty high back when the racing took place almost entirely on roads covered in gravel or mud.
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At the moment the 1979 Mercian Campionissimo is my only 10-speed, and since it seems on topic I'll mention that the SR Apex crankset with the 86 BCD started life as a triple, and I will soon be replacing what was the middle chainring (42) with the old inner ring (34), to go for a 52-34 setup. However, I'll do a bit of a hilly ride with it like so this Sunday to see whether the idea is justified or not.
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At the moment the 1979 Mercian Campionissimo is my only 10-speed, and since it seems on topic I'll mention that the SR Apex crankset with the 86 BCD started life as a triple, and I will soon be replacing what was the middle chainring (42) with the old inner ring (34), to go for a 52-34 setup. However, I'll do a bit of a hilly ride with it like so this Sunday to see whether the idea is justified or not.
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After buying four 5-speed freewheels from different ebay sellers, NOT ONE fit on my old five-speed wheels properly (I think they are all made up with 5 cogs on 6-speed bodies), and seeing the $100+ prices on NOS Reginas, etc., I said screw this, cold-set the dropouts to 126 mm, and went with 6-speeds (14-24) on my old wheels (re-spaced) and 7-speeds on a new set.
But, the Ellis-Briggs FAVORI is still a ten-speeder:
Chrome FAVORI by Ellis-Briggs
But, the Ellis-Briggs FAVORI is still a ten-speeder:
Chrome FAVORI by Ellis-Briggs
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After buying four 5-speed freewheels from different ebay sellers, NOT ONE fit on my old five-speed wheels properly (I think they are all made up with 5 cogs on 6-speed bodies), and seeing the $100+ prices on NOS Reginas, etc., I said screw this, cold-set the dropouts to 126 mm, and went with 6-speeds (14-24) on my old wheels (re-spaced) and 7-speeds on a new set.
But, the Ellis-Briggs FAVORI is still a ten-speeder:
But, the Ellis-Briggs FAVORI is still a ten-speeder:
• I'd never considered the possibility of 5 cogs being shimmed up to go on 6-spd bodies. Good point to remember, but how would we tell the pitfall in advance of a purchase? (I'm positive my small collection is OK though.)
• That Eliss-Briggs is one hell of a handsome machine! Congrats!
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7 speed freehub to 5 speed freewheel
Looks like I’m doing it backwards, built my 89 Trek using older components. The combination of the proprietary dropouts, 126mm spacing, hub shell width and Freewheel stack height enabled a dish-less rear wheel build.
The left bearing is few mm further inboard than the drive side but the flanges are centered, 45/47 chainline.
Not too obvious but there is no wheel dish
When I first purchased it.
The left bearing is few mm further inboard than the drive side but the flanges are centered, 45/47 chainline.
Not too obvious but there is no wheel dish
When I first purchased it.
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My 78 Super Le Tour 12.2 still has it's original 5 speed freewheel.
Most of my other bikes have 6 or more rear cogs.
Most of my other bikes have 6 or more rear cogs.
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The frame looks a lot like my Trek 560 in Reynolds 501 — 'cept mine doesn't have braze-ons for fenders. What's the derailleur?
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