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Old 05-31-22, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rustystrings61
I'm running the basic regular Pasela and not the PT version.
My local shop says they have a pair of Continental UltraSport III for $35 each. Is this a decent deal and how do they compare with the regular Paselas?
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I like #2 they ride great and look awesome.

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Seems that this thread has all the Pasela fans' attention.
Two Questions:
1.) Are the folding Paselas only found in the PT version?
2.) Does the folding Pasela PT have the same sidewall as the non-folding Pasela PT?

A while back the only folding 27" tires I could find were Pasela PT. I sold them with my only 27" bike--a Trek 620. Now I have two bikes with 27" hooked rims that will need tires and I prefer mounting folding tires.
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...rolls fast and also has reasonable durability...
For me it's Continental Ride Tour". Cost, speed, and resistance to flats are of my primary concern. For a wider tire I like Kenda K184s but they are getting expensive and have a long delivery time. My rides are up and down, paved at one time, light gravely, torn up asphalt. On a well paved road the center rib floats. The tires I have received had marking indicating manufacture both in India and Germany.


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Originally Posted by Classtime
Seems that this thread has all the Pasela fans' attention.
Two Questions:
1.) Are the folding Paselas only found in the PT version?
2.) Does the folding Pasela PT have the same sidewall as the non-folding Pasela PT?
Yes, and yes.

Here's a link to their current catalog: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/03...g_2022_ENG.pdf
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Update: I decided on the Continental Ultra Sport III. The local bike shop charged me $30 apiece (they were marked at $34.99). The only issue with installation was getting those last few inches of bead over the rim, something that seems to be not uncommon with some Continental tires according to reviews I've seen. Anybody have some tricks for the future to coax those last few inches of bead?

I pumped them to 90PSI (max is 102). The tires ride very well, and the main difference I felt in comparison to the Kenda K35 lookalikes that I had on previously was that the Continentals handled road shock from concrete joints noticeably better. I'm also hoping to gain a tenth or two on my average speed.

Thanks for all the helpful replies.

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Originally Posted by lmk5
Update: I decided on the Continental Ultra Sport III. The local bike shop charged me $30 apiece (they were marked at $34.99). The only issue with installation was getting those last few inches of bead over the rim, something that seems to be not uncommon with some Continental tires according to reviews I've seen. Anybody have some tricks for the future to coax those last few inches.
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Thanks I’ll check into those.
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Originally Posted by lmk5
Update: I decided on the Continental Ultra Sport III. The local bike shop charged me $30 apiece (they were marked at $34.99). The only issue with installation was getting those last few inches of bead over the rim, something that seems to be not uncommon with some Continental tires according to reviews I've seen. Anybody have some tricks for the future to coax those last few inches of bead?
There have been a bunch of threads about tire mounting/removal on here. I say that not to be snarky, but sometimes reading a lot of people's perspectives helps it to click. What always helps me is to hold the wheel up by the tire where I'm trying to mount it, and then using the other hand to go around the wheel, pinching the tire to get the beads into the center channel. This frees up slack, and holding the wheel by the tire helps encourage it to go up, where I want it. Thinner rim tape might be a good idea, too, if it's just a really tight rim and tire combination.

I pumped them to 90PSI (max is 102). The tires ride very well, and the main difference I felt in comparison to the Kenda K35 lookalikes that I had on previously was that the Continentals handled road shock from concrete joints noticeably better. I'm also hoping to gain a tenth or two on my average speed.

Thanks for all the helpful replies.
You might try even less pressure. With decent tires, you don't need to pump them rock-hard to get the lowest rolling resistance.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
There have been a bunch of threads about tire mounting/removal on here. I say that not to be snarky, but sometimes reading a lot of people's perspectives helps it to click. What always helps me is to hold the wheel up by the tire where I'm trying to mount it, and then using the other hand to go around the wheel, pinching the tire to get the beads into the center channel. This frees up slack, and holding the wheel by the tire helps encourage it to go up, where I want it. Thinner rim tape might be a good idea, too, if it's just a really tight rim and tire combination.



You might try even less pressure. With decent tires, you don't need to pump them rock-hard to get the lowest rolling resistance.
Thanks for the tips. As for tire pressure, I've looked at some pressure calculators and they don't allow for calculation using 27" tires, so I used 650B. Most of the results advise a pressure between 65 and 73 psi which seems kind of low. Are there any calculators that allow for 27" tires?
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Originally Posted by lmk5
Thanks for the tips. As for tire pressure, I've looked at some pressure calculators and they don't allow for calculation using 27" tires, so I used 650B. Most of the results advise a pressure between 65 and 73 psi which seems kind of low. Are there any calculators that allow for 27" tires?
The important thing for the tire pressure calculators I'm familiar with is tire width, not the wheel size. So if your tires measure 1-1/4" wide, you'd find the setting for 32mm.
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The important thing for the tire pressure calculators I'm familiar with is tire width, not the wheel size. So if your tires measure 1-1/4" wide, you'd find the setting for 32mm.
Yes, 32mm is what I've been using. I'm getting a recommendation of 65 in front and 69 in rear for this calculator: https://axs.sram.com/guides/tire/pressure
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Originally Posted by lmk5
Yes, 32mm is what I've been using. I'm getting a recommendation of 65 in front and 69 in rear for this calculator: https://axs.sram.com/guides/tire/pressure
That's definitely one of the most input-hungry tire pressure calculators I've seen! But it gives me suggestions in the 60's as well. There just isn't a need to pump tires up to really high pressures unless that's necessary to support your weight (or if that's simply how you want the tires to feel.)

BTW, 700C would be the closest option to 27", for the wheel diameter setting.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
That's definitely one of the most input-hungry tire pressure calculators I've seen! But it gives me suggestions in the 60's as well. There just isn't a need to pump tires up to really high pressures unless that's necessary to support your weight (or if that's simply how you want the tires to feel.)

BTW, 700C would be the closest option to 27", for the wheel diameter setting.
I used 700C and of course the recommendation went even lower. I'm using an inner rim width of 23mm (default value). I don't think I could bring myself to pumping only 60PSI LOL.
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