RWGPS Too Much Useless Garbage
02-26-24, 06:37 AM
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Popup doesn't appear for me. I have the Premium version. MacBook Pro/Chrome browser. I've been creating and editing a lot of routes recently as I'm planning my next trip.
02-26-24, 07:50 AM
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could be a browser issue then from the sounds of things.
not the first time that this sort of thing happens, once in a blue moon I hit weirdness with something and after a minute or 5 or 10, I remember, "oh yeah, try another browser" and it sometimes sorts out the issue.
and Ive never even used rwgps really, so plead complete innocence with it.
not the first time that this sort of thing happens, once in a blue moon I hit weirdness with something and after a minute or 5 or 10, I remember, "oh yeah, try another browser" and it sometimes sorts out the issue.
and Ive never even used rwgps really, so plead complete innocence with it.
02-26-24, 08:42 AM
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It is gone - -
I suspect it was a beta test that was supposed to be in beta mode,
but somehow it went live by mistake.
Popups have become ubiquitous - in almost every website.
Sometimes you get popups in popups.
Often with revenue or redirect as a goal.
But most people hate 'em and do their best to ignore them.
*FYI
I intentionally feed my advert "profile" fake stuff.
For ex. - that I have a private pilot, buy yachts, and use an extra large bra.
In the spirit of Edward Abbey.
I suspect it was a beta test that was supposed to be in beta mode,
but somehow it went live by mistake.
Popups have become ubiquitous - in almost every website.
Sometimes you get popups in popups.
Often with revenue or redirect as a goal.
But most people hate 'em and do their best to ignore them.
*FYI
I intentionally feed my advert "profile" fake stuff.
For ex. - that I have a private pilot, buy yachts, and use an extra large bra.
In the spirit of Edward Abbey.
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02-26-24, 09:35 AM
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Not sure in this situation, but one technique that also gets done is A-B testing on a live site. You subject some subset of the population (A) to your new change and then compare the response to the other population without the change (B). So perhaps it was there by mistake but there are also scenarios where feature trials are intentional.
02-26-24, 09:57 AM
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Didn't happen to me using an iMac and Safari. I am also a paying member.
02-26-24, 10:11 AM
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Not sure in this situation, but one technique that also gets done is A-B testing on a live site. You subject some subset of the population (A) to your new change and then compare the response to the other population without the change (B). So perhaps it was there by mistake but there are also scenarios where feature trials are intentional.
they sure got an earful from me.
One time I had a Disney ad take over my phone in the middle of a conversation.
Do they really think you are going to buy when they irritate you like that?
Anyhoo, thanks much. - - J
02-26-24, 10:17 AM
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You should be happy now, the button seems to be deactivated, as I'm not getting it today.
You may want to avoid clicking on the Explore tab however, as that map has a button that appears upon panning or zooming, saying "Search this area"
02-26-24, 10:30 AM
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When you send in a help ticket, you get a rah-rah speech about how great it is -
to be able to make stock trades on the Tokyo Exchange while riding across Iowa.
Kinda like resetting the clock in your car.
47 steps including a security challenge.
And if you say - "In the old days, you just adjusted a knob." - they get mad.
to be able to make stock trades on the Tokyo Exchange while riding across Iowa.
Kinda like resetting the clock in your car.
47 steps including a security challenge.
And if you say - "In the old days, you just adjusted a knob." - they get mad.
"You can't please everybody." You have no idea how many people like (or dislike) the new features.
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02-26-24, 10:43 AM
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02-26-24, 10:54 AM
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Nope, doesn't happen to me. Nothing I do brings it up, edit, whatever. I love the software and all the improvements over the years. I have hundreds of routes in my library. My wife and I did a solo tour of the Czech Republic, relying entirely on RWGPS for route planning. Didn't even take paper maps, didn't need them. Of course it took me a while working up 600k of road routes complete with accommodations.
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02-26-24, 12:18 PM
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It is gone - -
I suspect it was a beta test that was supposed to be in beta mode,
but somehow it went live by mistake.
Popups have become ubiquitous - in almost every website.
Sometimes you get popups in popups.
Often with revenue or redirect as a goal.
But most people hate 'em and do their best to ignore them.
*FYI
I intentionally feed my advert "profile" fake stuff.
For ex. - that I have a private pilot, buy yachts, and use an extra large bra.
In the spirit of Edward Abbey.
I suspect it was a beta test that was supposed to be in beta mode,
but somehow it went live by mistake.
Popups have become ubiquitous - in almost every website.
Sometimes you get popups in popups.
Often with revenue or redirect as a goal.
But most people hate 'em and do their best to ignore them.
*FYI
I intentionally feed my advert "profile" fake stuff.
For ex. - that I have a private pilot, buy yachts, and use an extra large bra.
In the spirit of Edward Abbey.
Did you hear about "POPuPbLOCkERs"
)) I never get any Popups, never.
02-26-24, 01:22 PM
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02-26-24, 04:02 PM
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With multiple route failures (described here in this thread - Why I don't trust route choices from Ride With GPS) - I find it useful to sanity check with the heat maps to double check if other cyclists have come through a similar route. It may not be as big of an issue if your world is New Jersey but I found in less populated areas it would pick routes that included (a) private roads (b) misleading assumption that if the road type was "unknown" it would be paved (c) one or two cases of a road not existing. In those less populated parts of the US, I would do as well with a state highway map e.g. South Dakota. However, otherwise it is a useful tool including for me in more urban areas and including the heat map as a cross-check.
As a backup in case both phones die I copy the cue sheet from RWGPS, paste it into a text editor and add my own notes, then print that out. I ride on a lot of unnamed roads/trails so the RWGPS instruction will just be "2.7 mi slight right", so I put in a description and the approximate heading of the path I'm turning onto just to reassure myself I'm on the right road, so my new instruction will be something like "2.7 mi slight right doubletrack 300°"
When it comes to finding a campsite I'll consult the maps for legal camping areas and put notes in for that also. On my last trip I was going to camp in a small pocket of campable land so I looked it up on the State Trust Land site, used a half mile buffer on either side just to make sure and then entered a note for it - "Camp one to 2.5 miles past Salome Road"
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05-07-24, 10:24 AM
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05-07-24, 10:34 AM
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05-07-24, 10:35 AM
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Most of the time you can choose the "USGS Scans" (Not USGS Topo) at the bottom of the map toggle.
Many times it will let you route on seasonal closures - like in Yellowstone - but not always. Why so??
I like to plan trips when roads are closed in Yosemite or Yellowstone or the Canadian Rockies.
You know - plan the route in the winter before you head out?
So, although I know their rationale for blocking it, I'm frustrated by this, too.
Maybe a pop-up with the warning, "Route Seasonally Closed - Do you want to continue?"
Many times it will let you route on seasonal closures - like in Yellowstone - but not always. Why so??
I like to plan trips when roads are closed in Yosemite or Yellowstone or the Canadian Rockies.
You know - plan the route in the winter before you head out?
So, although I know their rationale for blocking it, I'm frustrated by this, too.
Maybe a pop-up with the warning, "Route Seasonally Closed - Do you want to continue?"
05-07-24, 10:44 AM
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Most of the time you can choose the "USGS Scans" (Not USGS Topo) at the bottom of the map toggle.
Many times it will let you route on seasonal closures - like in Yellowstone - but not always. Why so??
I like to plan trips when roads are closed in Yosemite or Yellowstone or the Canadian Rockies.
You know - plan the route in the winter before you head out?
So, although I know their rationale for blocking it, I'm frustrated by this, too.
Maybe a pop-up with the warning, "Route Seasonally Closed - Do you want to continue?"
Many times it will let you route on seasonal closures - like in Yellowstone - but not always. Why so??
I like to plan trips when roads are closed in Yosemite or Yellowstone or the Canadian Rockies.
You know - plan the route in the winter before you head out?
So, although I know their rationale for blocking it, I'm frustrated by this, too.
Maybe a pop-up with the warning, "Route Seasonally Closed - Do you want to continue?"
RWGPS is getting better about that kinda thing as time goes on. It used to be so roadie-centric that any route in the dirt would be nothing but "Draw Lines".
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05-07-24, 12:50 PM
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I don't have seasonal roads here. Other routing difficulties:
OSM Cycle sometimes has roads, paths, or parking lot shortcuts that the google maps don't show. I'll have to try the topo maps sometime.
One way street sidewalks, taking a "no left turn", etc: Try temporarily switching to "Walking" instead of "Cycling" on the Routing pulldown.
What road is this route using? The map style "RWGPS Cycle" shows road names overlaid on the route line. google maps covers the road names with the red route line.
OSM Cycle sometimes has roads, paths, or parking lot shortcuts that the google maps don't show. I'll have to try the topo maps sometime.
One way street sidewalks, taking a "no left turn", etc: Try temporarily switching to "Walking" instead of "Cycling" on the Routing pulldown.
What road is this route using? The map style "RWGPS Cycle" shows road names overlaid on the route line. google maps covers the road names with the red route line.
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05-07-24, 01:02 PM
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For Routes or Rides, searching my history:
Show on Map
Finding an old route of mine, or just selecting from all my routes that take an interesting road that I want to repeat. This is on Windows, and I have the paid rwgps plan -- does "show on map" work for free accounts?
Click Routes on the main page. It shows a list of recent routes. At the top right, click "Show on map"
Now it shows a local map with green circles with counts of how many of my routes start there.
Now pan and zoom the map to find a road that I've included on routes before.
Click on the road on the map.
I get a list of every route of mine that passes through that point!
Click a route on the list and it's shown on the map in red. There's also a link to the original route page.
Rides work essentially the same way.
Show on Map
Finding an old route of mine, or just selecting from all my routes that take an interesting road that I want to repeat. This is on Windows, and I have the paid rwgps plan -- does "show on map" work for free accounts?
Click Routes on the main page. It shows a list of recent routes. At the top right, click "Show on map"
Now it shows a local map with green circles with counts of how many of my routes start there.
Now pan and zoom the map to find a road that I've included on routes before.
Click on the road on the map.
I get a list of every route of mine that passes through that point!
Click a route on the list and it's shown on the map in red. There's also a link to the original route page.
Rides work essentially the same way.
05-07-24, 01:25 PM
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Most of the time you can choose the "USGS Scans" (Not USGS Topo) at the bottom of the map toggle.
Many times it will let you route on seasonal closures - like in Yellowstone - but not always. Why so??
I like to plan trips when roads are closed in Yosemite or Yellowstone or the Canadian Rockies.
You know - plan the route in the winter before you head out?
So, although I know their rationale for blocking it, I'm frustrated by this, too.
Maybe a pop-up with the warning, "Route Seasonally Closed - Do you want to continue?"
Many times it will let you route on seasonal closures - like in Yellowstone - but not always. Why so??
I like to plan trips when roads are closed in Yosemite or Yellowstone or the Canadian Rockies.
You know - plan the route in the winter before you head out?
So, although I know their rationale for blocking it, I'm frustrated by this, too.
Maybe a pop-up with the warning, "Route Seasonally Closed - Do you want to continue?"
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05-07-24, 02:25 PM
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I went to RWGPS tonight to do some planning -
And there's this new pop-up "Explore Other routes in this Area" right in the middle of the small map.
And you can't get rid of it.
Over the past couple of years, I believe the RWGPS website has gotten worse.
They keep coming up with all these new Edsels - most of which you don't really need or want.
And, quite often, you can't choose whether you use them or not.
When you send in a help ticket, you get a rah-rah speech about how great it is -
to be able to make stock trades on the Tokyo Exchange while riding across Iowa.
Kinda like resetting the clock in your car.
47 steps including a security challenge.
And if you say - "In the old days, you just adjusted a knob." - they get mad.
If I want to see other rides in the area, I know where to look.
At the very least, have it a a drop-down choice -
Not floating in the middle of an already small map no matter where you move it.
It may be time to look elsewhere - which means lots of work exporting files.
If I go, I will never return.
But I really, really hate floating pop-ups - especially when I am a Premium subscriber.
And there's this new pop-up "Explore Other routes in this Area" right in the middle of the small map.
And you can't get rid of it.
Over the past couple of years, I believe the RWGPS website has gotten worse.
They keep coming up with all these new Edsels - most of which you don't really need or want.
And, quite often, you can't choose whether you use them or not.
When you send in a help ticket, you get a rah-rah speech about how great it is -
to be able to make stock trades on the Tokyo Exchange while riding across Iowa.
Kinda like resetting the clock in your car.
47 steps including a security challenge.
And if you say - "In the old days, you just adjusted a knob." - they get mad.
If I want to see other rides in the area, I know where to look.
At the very least, have it a a drop-down choice -
Not floating in the middle of an already small map no matter where you move it.
It may be time to look elsewhere - which means lots of work exporting files.
If I go, I will never return.
But I really, really hate floating pop-ups - especially when I am a Premium subscriber.
I think I understand the rationale, safety in avoiding busy roads (maybe?), but sometimes the highways are just nice to ride.😅
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05-08-24, 09:56 AM
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