Bike license?
07-14-18, 11:30 AM
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Please no bike licenses nor bike registrations. We accept even drivers licenses mainly because it's always been that way (for most of us) so we never think of "why" or why not. The only benefit - for the owner of a drivers license - is that we use it for identification. And people have to practice driving at least a little bit before taking a drivers exam. Neither of those benefits have a practical application to bikes.
The usual underlying reason for proposing bike regulation like this (and in large part a big initial reason for requiring a DL in the USA) is revenue generation, and that never actually works with bikes.
The usual underlying reason for proposing bike regulation like this (and in large part a big initial reason for requiring a DL in the USA) is revenue generation, and that never actually works with bikes.
07-14-18, 01:34 PM
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Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can correct me, but I had always considered a licence to be a permit for a practice that when abused or used incorrectly can be a risk for public safety. For example, doctors, engineers, hunters, boaters, and of course drivers all have licences for purposes of public safety. A driver's licence isn't just a diploma. A driver's licence tells the public that the holder has demonstrated safe operation of his vehicle. A bicycle licence does not have this reach. When a bicycle is used inappropriately, only the user is put at risk. The risk to the general public is recorded to be one pedestrian death in about five years - hardly comparable to drivers who abuse or misuse their motor vehicles.
A license is something you have to pay for and can lose if you misuse it. And many licenses require zero training or qualification outside of a fee and information.
07-14-18, 02:02 PM
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Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can correct me, but I had always considered a licence to be a permit for a practice that when abused or used incorrectly can be a risk for public safety. For example, doctors, engineers, hunters, boaters, and of course drivers all have licences for purposes of public safety. A driver's licence isn't just a diploma. A driver's licence tells the public that the holder has demonstrated safe operation of his vehicle. A bicycle licence does not have this reach. When a bicycle is used inappropriately, only the user is put at risk. The risk to the general public is recorded to be one pedestrian death in about five years - hardly comparable to drivers who abuse or misuse their motor vehicles.
It is not even a permit to drive - since it's only applicable on public roadways, it is a permit to operate a motor vehicle on public roadways.
07-14-18, 04:47 PM
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Or doesn't know how auto and bike traffic laws works wherever they go, as in the case of a 16 yo /unlicensed non driver without and road traffic experience or training as in the case of the OP.
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07-15-18, 02:15 AM
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Absolutely not, under normal circumstance. I say this because there are special instances where a operator certificate or pass might be necessary such as bring your bike into specially congested pedestrian locations or restricted/limited ride areas.
That certificate would indicate that you've been instructed with a set of standards for operating your bike safely while in that area. On public roads however, bikes are the least threat (cyclist vs motor vehicles), so its totally unnecessary for a cyclist to be licensed.
That certificate would indicate that you've been instructed with a set of standards for operating your bike safely while in that area. On public roads however, bikes are the least threat (cyclist vs motor vehicles), so its totally unnecessary for a cyclist to be licensed.
07-15-18, 02:16 AM
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Hi all, I'm just wondering about your opinion on a training course or lisense for cyclists?
I'm writing this while I'm on a cycle tour and I cycled through Bordeaux the other day, my first taste at city cycling
I'll confess I can find it a little confusing when there are bikes, cars and trams are all going through the same junction!
And to make it worse you have to share some bike lanes with busses!
UPDATE:
I'll clarify what I mean 😂😂
I don't think that licenses should be required but available for cyclists to obtain so that there is a clear rule book for cyclists and car drivers to follow.
An example of this would be who takes priority when a cycle way joins a road? Car driver or cyclists? Personally I'd say the car driver takes priority but some people disagree. This is why I think there should be more clear rules around this area...I think a lisense is one way of making this clear as the cyclists would 'gain' something from it
Does anyone think that a lisense as it were would be a good idea so that there is a common way of thinking and doing thinks between cyclists and non cyclists to make things easier, safer and more understandable?
I'm writing this while I'm on a cycle tour and I cycled through Bordeaux the other day, my first taste at city cycling
I'll confess I can find it a little confusing when there are bikes, cars and trams are all going through the same junction!
And to make it worse you have to share some bike lanes with busses!
UPDATE:
I'll clarify what I mean 😂😂
I don't think that licenses should be required but available for cyclists to obtain so that there is a clear rule book for cyclists and car drivers to follow.
An example of this would be who takes priority when a cycle way joins a road? Car driver or cyclists? Personally I'd say the car driver takes priority but some people disagree. This is why I think there should be more clear rules around this area...I think a lisense is one way of making this clear as the cyclists would 'gain' something from it
Does anyone think that a lisense as it were would be a good idea so that there is a common way of thinking and doing thinks between cyclists and non cyclists to make things easier, safer and more understandable?
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