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Old 03-02-20, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MrK.
If you are northwest of Boston, where is this ride. I have a place in southern NH, this looks like my kind of ride. I usually ride the coast on 1A.
Myles Standish State Forest Carver / Plymouth

Myles Standish State Forest, Carver MA
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I predict you won't have the problem. Most of the valve creep comes not from riding underinflated tires but from wheeling the bike when the tires are uninflated. You can get a ton of creep rolling it a short distance. Try not to think about the problem.
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Just epoxy the tire to the rim. Never have to worry about it again.
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Its funny how we all get restless this time of year. Its funny how we'll discuss anything, and even the most rudimentary topics become a hotbed of discussion. At least we're all amicable!

For what its worth, I won't even add air to a customer's schrader-tubed tires if its gotten crooked. I'll always deflate all the way, break the bead, and rotate the valve into the correct position. I'm pretty OCD about that sort of thing. Hey, I would notice it if an LBS mechanic did that to my bike, so why would I taint my reputation. If its not right, it doesn't leave the shop (customer idiosyncrasy's notwithstanding)!
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Totally forgot that in the early 70's at least there were Rim Locks for motorcycle tires- a hard rubber oval piece that caught the beads on both sides, held in position with a bolt through a hole that looked a bit like a schrader valve.
Not sure how the mass was accounted for, maybe near opposite the valve? Balanced later? If at all, these were for off road bikes, where low inflation could help, like sand dunes.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
Myles Standish State Forest Carver / Plymouth

Myles Standish State Forest, Carver MA
As a native of the Bay State, the thing I like most about the town of Carver is that the correct local pronunciation rhymes it with "Java."
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Originally Posted by jonwvara
As a native of the Bay State, the thing I like most about the town of Carver is that the correct local pronunciation rhymes it with "Java."
Do you know why the state of Massachusetts has very few crows found as roadkill?



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...Because they always have a buddy sitting in a tree going, "CAH CAH CAH!"


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Originally Posted by J.Higgins
Its funny how we all get restless this time of year. Its funny how we'll discuss anything, and even the most rudimentary topics become a hotbed of discussion. At least we're all amicable!

For what its worth, I won't even add air to a customer's schrader-tubed tires if its gotten crooked. I'll always deflate all the way, break the bead, and rotate the valve into the correct position. I'm pretty OCD about that sort of thing. Hey, I would notice it if an LBS mechanic did that to my bike, so why would I taint my reputation. If its not right, it doesn't leave the shop (customer idiosyncrasy's notwithstanding)!
I typically pinch the deflated tire sidewalls, and with a gentle squeeze, rotate the tire in my hand until the valve is straight. It works with any black sidewall tires, but DON'T DO IT ON CONTINENTAL TAN SIDEWALL TIRES.
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Originally Posted by jonwvara
As a native of the Bay State, the thing I like most about the town of Carver is that the correct local pronunciation rhymes it with "Java."
lol, I was not aware, but makes sense. I'm originally from NY so I've got the hard "R"s
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
rotate the tire in my hand until the valve is straight. It works with any black sidewall tires, but DON'T DO IT ON CONTINENTAL TAN SIDEWALL TIRES.
how come? they don't slide so well?
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Schwalbe sells fully threaded Schraeder tubes w/a retaining ring like on Presta tubes: https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/tubes/finder. Those hold pretty well.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
how come? they don't slide so well?
The Conti tan sidewalls seem somewhat fragile. The squeeze and drag will fuzz them up.

I can't tell for sure if it structurally damages the tires, but it sure looks ugly.

Oh, plus a tight fitting tire may take more work than other brands to force them to slip.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Oh, plus a tight fitting tire may take more work than other brands to force them to slip.
yeah I have some tires that don't rotate on the rims, after both beads are on. so I'm sure to get everything lined up nice before getting the 2nd bead on. guess that's a good thing tho

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Originally Posted by J.Higgins
Nowadays, I wont use any Schrader-valved tubes that do not have a threaded stem. Conti and Schwalbe are my go-to's. I also use metal caps, and if there is any doubt about them coming off, I coat the stem threads with beeswax.
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Schwalbe sells fully threaded Schraeder tubes w/a retaining ring like on Presta tubes: https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/tubes/finder. Those hold pretty well.
This is how I keep stem creep to a minimum. Fully threaded stems, with a lock nut against the rim.
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In my experience valve creep happens mostly by low pressure, but one of my friends had this problem on his front wheel and the only way to fix it was replacing the rim. It always happened after some heavy braking downhill with a loaded touring bike, not on flat ground with the same unloaded bike. We tried more pressure, changing the tire, degreasing the rim, etc., but the valve kept creeping to a 45º angle.
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