Bike Lovers vs Bike Snobs...
03-24-16, 07:48 AM
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don't try this at home.
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03-24-16, 07:51 AM
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Discredited Trope
"Over the course of time, a trope may be overused, misused, opposed, made obsolete, out of fashion, subverted on many notable occasions, or just end up being widely disliked. Eventually, a trope may reach the point where it becomes one which nobody should dare use seriously and only belongs in parody, satire, homage or pastiche. Often, if one of these is used straight, people will assume it's a Red Herring. "
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03-24-16, 07:53 AM
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I must not be a snob, because I love seeing 'bents and trikes. Partly because it's so rare around here it's like seeing a unicorn, and partly because they're always going so damn fast, even when they have big floppy sun hats on.
The sole reason I check out passing rider's bikes is to add to my mental tally of manufacturers. And in my locality, it's still led by Trek, by a massive margin.
The sole reason I check out passing rider's bikes is to add to my mental tally of manufacturers. And in my locality, it's still led by Trek, by a massive margin.
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03-24-16, 07:56 AM
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My apologies to you, and only to you, KaS. The thread is well meant, I should have just left well enough alone, but its done now.
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03-24-16, 07:57 AM
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I like the single rear wheel low slung trikes ! Those look like they would be some fun!
03-24-16, 08:10 AM
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It'd certainly be something different, anyways. 
03-24-16, 08:13 AM
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Can't be done. On a "normal" bike, speeds of even 10mph will remove said floppy sun hat. They use some sort of magical recumbent physics, because the damn hats aren't even moving in the breeze as they rocket by.
You can equip yourself with one of those safety flags, though. That would be different.
You can equip yourself with one of those safety flags, though. That would be different.
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03-24-16, 08:23 AM
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Somebody has inadequacy issues.
03-24-16, 08:27 AM
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Can't be done. On a "normal" bike, speeds of even 10mph will remove said floppy sun hat. They use some sort of magical recumbent physics, because the damn hats aren't even moving in the breeze as they rocket by.
You can equip yourself with one of those safety flags, though. That would be different.
You can equip yourself with one of those safety flags, though. That would be different.
03-24-16, 08:33 AM
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Non omnino gravis
More khakis around these parts. Khakis and tee-shirts.
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Haha. I forgot your location. But I still see the beards everywhere - the universal symbol
03-24-16, 08:52 AM
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That's my thoughts too. But now I wonder if he just made that up to get a reaction. Hard to believe someone really did and said the things he did in real life.
03-24-16, 08:53 AM
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Imaginary distinctions.
I see a lot more people worrying about snobs than I've met real life snobs. (yes, there are a few out there, so what)
Building straw men (straw snobs?) seems to be a national pastime.
Building straw men (straw snobs?) seems to be a national pastime.
What hardware someone else uses and how they are costumed while operating it is of no interest whatever to experienced cyclists out doing what they do. This is the more or less mature BF sub-forum where setting a hook for divisive twaddle suitable for the 41 sinks to the bottom where it belongs. 
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03-24-16, 08:57 AM
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Fuel at a stop
Bike lover.... Pie and coffee or ice cream
Bike snob...homemade blend of herbs, nutrients, and grains with honey water to drink
Bike lover.... Pie and coffee or ice cream
Bike snob...homemade blend of herbs, nutrients, and grains with honey water to drink
03-24-16, 09:07 AM
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Hey ... that's funny. And not caring what others think is the biggest perk of being over 50.
If I've learned anything in life its that people are the same no matter where you go. We all want to be loved, respected, spend our lives doing something worthwhile, and at the end, leave the place better than when we found it. What is different about us are our circumstances, and those circumstances are what cause us to react differently to different things. And we're all at least a bit insecure and unhappy, and some wealthy and poor alike try to address it with whatever material things they can get their hands on.
I have an old version of the Boy Scout handbook lying around. And somewhere at the end in the section where it takes on difficult subjects like getting along with others and "self-gratification" (you should read it some time ... it's a hoot), there is a story of two boys leaving his home town to live in another.
On the outskirts of his new town, the first boy encounters a man and asks him what the people are like in town. The old man asks:
"How were they were you're coming from?"
"Terrible. Cliquish, unfriendly, and vain. I couldn't wait to leave.
The old man answered:
"Well, you'll find them the same here."
The boy wrinkled his brow and moved on. The second boy later approached him and asked the same question. But when asked about the people in his town, he replied:
"Great. Helpful, friendly, and fun. I made a lot of friends and I'm really going to miss them."
"Well, you'll find them the same here."
The boy happily skipped away to his new adventure.
The point is that the old man knew that to a great degree, the people you meet are but a reflection of how you perceive them. It's the observer-expectancy effect in action.
If I've learned anything in life its that people are the same no matter where you go. We all want to be loved, respected, spend our lives doing something worthwhile, and at the end, leave the place better than when we found it. What is different about us are our circumstances, and those circumstances are what cause us to react differently to different things. And we're all at least a bit insecure and unhappy, and some wealthy and poor alike try to address it with whatever material things they can get their hands on.
I have an old version of the Boy Scout handbook lying around. And somewhere at the end in the section where it takes on difficult subjects like getting along with others and "self-gratification" (you should read it some time ... it's a hoot), there is a story of two boys leaving his home town to live in another.
On the outskirts of his new town, the first boy encounters a man and asks him what the people are like in town. The old man asks:
"How were they were you're coming from?"
"Terrible. Cliquish, unfriendly, and vain. I couldn't wait to leave.
The old man answered:
"Well, you'll find them the same here."
The boy wrinkled his brow and moved on. The second boy later approached him and asked the same question. But when asked about the people in his town, he replied:
"Great. Helpful, friendly, and fun. I made a lot of friends and I'm really going to miss them."
"Well, you'll find them the same here."
The boy happily skipped away to his new adventure.
The point is that the old man knew that to a great degree, the people you meet are but a reflection of how you perceive them. It's the observer-expectancy effect in action.
03-24-16, 09:47 AM
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I live in an area saturated with arrogant, self-important people of limited life-experience, compassion and intelligence. Many of them have learned how to accumulate money, more than the rest of us. Their collective answer to any personal problem is to write a check. These are the folks that tend to buy expensive TDF-qualified road bikes and never mind the pain of riding them or climbing our pervasive local hills with flat-land gearing. These are the folks who, around here, run red lights (perhaps attempting a "Strada" best), never wave and get really pissed if you can pass them on a hill. I am not fond of these types, nor are the local sheriff deputies, neither are the 'normal' folk who are doing their best to integrate their (car) driving habits with us cyclists.
The most common legal bike problem, around here, is bicycle idiots running red lights and four-way stops; not slowing at all, not looking – not acting like a member of our community. Perhaps they do look (who wouldn't) but --- they appear (to cage drivers) to be flaunting their legal responsibilities, which they are.
Revenge:
Just today, my wife and I were crossing the busy main drag in Solvang CA; a considerate driver stopped to let us cross, holding up a dozen or so cars; we waved our thanks and hurried across. Then: a 'road" cyclist came whizzing along to the right of the stopped cars with no intention of even slowing let alone obeying the law. I pretended surprise (I wasn't) and put out my hand in defense. It happened to hit his handlebar; he went down on his right side and lost some skin. I asked him if he was okay, he said he was and I retorted, "that's too bad you arrogant basta*d."
Yeah, I have an attitude! But – bet he won’t do it again and then, perhaps, kill a three-year-old playing in the street.
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If some of you are offended by what I have just stated, I offer that I have spent most of my lifetime dealing with really ignorant people guilty of being arrogant and stupid in public. I have little compassion for such selfish people. I would not make a very good Buddhist.
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The most common legal bike problem, around here, is bicycle idiots running red lights and four-way stops; not slowing at all, not looking – not acting like a member of our community. Perhaps they do look (who wouldn't) but --- they appear (to cage drivers) to be flaunting their legal responsibilities, which they are.
Revenge:
Just today, my wife and I were crossing the busy main drag in Solvang CA; a considerate driver stopped to let us cross, holding up a dozen or so cars; we waved our thanks and hurried across. Then: a 'road" cyclist came whizzing along to the right of the stopped cars with no intention of even slowing let alone obeying the law. I pretended surprise (I wasn't) and put out my hand in defense. It happened to hit his handlebar; he went down on his right side and lost some skin. I asked him if he was okay, he said he was and I retorted, "that's too bad you arrogant basta*d."
Yeah, I have an attitude! But – bet he won’t do it again and then, perhaps, kill a three-year-old playing in the street.
Joe
If some of you are offended by what I have just stated, I offer that I have spent most of my lifetime dealing with really ignorant people guilty of being arrogant and stupid in public. I have little compassion for such selfish people. I would not make a very good Buddhist.
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03-24-16, 10:15 AM
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I hate those idiots...and they never wave back at me! 
Reminds me of how I felt about the cool kids when I was about 9, but, fortunately, battery wasn't my thing.
Reminds me of how I felt about the cool kids when I was about 9, but, fortunately, battery wasn't my thing.
03-24-16, 10:34 AM
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I am a true bike lover. I have a passion for the bikes as well as for riding bikes.
But whereas I like baggy shorts and a golf or tee shirt on a classic steel bike at times (like out with the wife to get ice cream). I also enjoy the (snobbish) kit and more formalized riding.... as best described in "the rules". Whether shaving a few miles off of driving by running errands on a bike.... or bicycle riding purely recreationally.... it's all fun, its all good.
But don't you DARE not wave back at me!!! (It's a joke)
But whereas I like baggy shorts and a golf or tee shirt on a classic steel bike at times (like out with the wife to get ice cream). I also enjoy the (snobbish) kit and more formalized riding.... as best described in "the rules". Whether shaving a few miles off of driving by running errands on a bike.... or bicycle riding purely recreationally.... it's all fun, its all good.
But don't you DARE not wave back at me!!! (It's a joke)
03-24-16, 11:40 AM
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Someone posted a funny story about a local racer. He hated when people didn't wave back so sometimes he would turn around, chase them down, and yell "hi" right beside them. He said the faster they were going, the more enjoyment he got.
03-24-16, 01:01 PM
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Nice! A man after my crazy, old, bradycardic, heart.
03-24-16, 02:12 PM
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Instead of bike snob, I prefer to be called a cycling elitist. Sounds more regal. 
The fact that I haven't bought a brand new bicycle in over 10 years, don't use any computers, powermeters or smartphone apps and occasionally ride in street clothes should not disqualify me. Strava what?
The fact that I haven't bought a brand new bicycle in over 10 years, don't use any computers, powermeters or smartphone apps and occasionally ride in street clothes should not disqualify me. Strava what?
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03-24-16, 03:05 PM
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I generally get called lots of things, generally they aren't suitable for mixed company or with the kids present. Snob is the mildest thing someone could call me. If the simple fact I chose to wear Lycra shorts, cycling jerseys and use clipless pedals makes me a snob, or whatever, then I'm guilty
as charged
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Wildwood, nice stable there, I'll be sharing my C&V build in a few weeks, watch this space.
MoAlpha said, "Nice! A man after my crazy, old, bradycardic, heart." Hmm. a heart after my own old bradycardic heart
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as charged.Wildwood, nice stable there, I'll be sharing my C&V build in a few weeks, watch this space.
MoAlpha said, "Nice! A man after my crazy, old, bradycardic, heart." Hmm. a heart after my own old bradycardic heart
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03-24-16, 03:17 PM
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PS - the 65+ jersey totally flopped, which was far superior than getting just a couple of orders.
edit: the 'fleet' has been 30 years of cycling evolution & love (+ therapy), here's wishing it never dies - until I do.
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