Wow - the carbon bits from China are starting to look pretty impressive
12-29-10, 01:26 PM
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I would take a Bikes Direct Motobecane Ti bike over a Merlin any day. Better bike, better chance of getting a warranty issue resolved.
12-29-10, 01:27 PM
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12-29-10, 01:31 PM
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Spectrum Ti road bikes are Merlins. I was not the original owner however. Still, the friggin frame was 4-5 years old. Never should have detonated. That was the end Merlins for me.
12-29-10, 02:23 PM
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12-29-10, 02:24 PM
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Greed like the stupid unions and their "leaders" in the U.S who insisted they were being smart with the ridiculous agreements they bargain for, which guarantee that jobs will be moved overseas?
I'm just throwing that out there because I thought this thread wasn't far enough off track yet.
Oh, and The WalMart sucks!! It's all their fault.
I'm just throwing that out there because I thought this thread wasn't far enough off track yet.
Oh, and The WalMart sucks!! It's all their fault.
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Again, if I was looking at a no-name Chinese company and a no-name N American company, I would go with the N American and pay more for it. A N American company can certainly blow off a warranty, but there is some level of recourse here. You can sue the company if it comes down to it. You can report them to the BBB, you can even get your state District Attorney involved because in general, we have consumer protection laws that are mostly enforced. With a Chinese company, you get nothing. Its not even worth pursuing because everyone knows you will get nowhere with the Chinese authorities.
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Yeah, most of the people who've actually purchased them like them, although they haven't all been without issues. Still, I'm going to buy one I think. I'd like to get both of the ones I posted but can't justify the extra $$$ for the TT.
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Greed like the stupid unions and their "leaders" in the U.S who insisted they were being smart with the ridiculous agreements they bargain for, which guarantee that jobs will be moved overseas?
I'm just throwing that out there because I thought this thread wasn't far enough off track yet.
Oh, and The WalMart sucks!! It's all their fault.
I'm just throwing that out there because I thought this thread wasn't far enough off track yet.
Oh, and The WalMart sucks!! It's all their fault.
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SEMANTICS, trying to overintellectualizing a point doesn't make it more valid.
12-29-10, 08:03 PM
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How is that semantics? It's a technical description of a process that is very specific.
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If you were talking to a frame factory and were tossing around the word 'drawn' everyone in the room would assume you were talking about a steel/alloy frame and NOT a carbon frame.
How is that semantics? It's a technical description of a process that is very specific.
How is that semantics? It's a technical description of a process that is very specific.
12-29-10, 10:08 PM
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12-29-10, 10:11 PM
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There is a video posted of TIME weaving their own carbon.
There are others who do the same.
Your information is OUTDATED.
Giant makes very good bikes.
Santa bought one for my son for Christmas.
Are we done?
12-29-10, 10:19 PM
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BMC also does their own weave for the Impec AFAIK.
12-29-10, 10:28 PM
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I think you're really pushing the paragraph syntax envelope here Bobby.
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Frames look good..but a big part of the performance is how the carbon tubes are tuned. This you can only tell by riding. Top companies use a lot of rider feedback to get adequate stiffness, road feel, and the like. Unlikely that these frames have that kind of rider input..but they do look cool.