Just ordered a Brompton, and of Course i have Questions
01-30-13, 09:57 AM
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The Brompton-Zefal pump has a sealing ring under the handle, and a cap over the end,
so it's plunger and valve seal remans clean and ready to pump, in spite of constantly being less than
half a M from the pavement.
helmet.. Bern .. the Carbon fiber shell version is almost tweedy..
though you could get a racing silks cover like a jockey..
perhaps in matching tweed with the coat. , brim front and back, Sherlock..
so it's plunger and valve seal remans clean and ready to pump, in spite of constantly being less than
half a M from the pavement.
helmet.. Bern .. the Carbon fiber shell version is almost tweedy..
though you could get a racing silks cover like a jockey..
perhaps in matching tweed with the coat. , brim front and back, Sherlock..
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Can not let that stop you if you want something. "Nothing" is available where I live. I buy 98% of my bikestuff on the net from abroad. Bought from the shop I linked to also (not the helmet yet) and they are superfast and cheap shipping.
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asr3510... I posted instructions and pictures last year on installing Ergon grips on my Brompton. I'm guessing it's still applicable to what you want to do. It's pretty straight forward - takes about 30 minutes to 45 minutes.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...zonation+ergon
Why do you have to wait 6 to 8 weeks? I thought NYCE Wheels had most configurations in stock?
As for your questions:
- No idea if the 2013 model comes with the Brompton tool. I'm guessing no. It might be cheaper to assemble your own tools and bundle them into a small bag.
- I think, frankly, that the included pump sucks. No polite way to put it. It's great for an emergency, but for regular inflation, get a third party pump. Because you normally want to run the tires at significantly higher pressure than larger tires, get a pump that: 1) can fold out to include a little foot rest to stabilize the feet by stepping on it; 2) a built in gauge otherwise you'll have to keep checking with a hand gauge; 3) has a comfortable foldable T-style handle - you're going to be exerting a lot of force to get a high volume of air into those small tires. I have an Axiom Enforcer hand pump.
- No carrier block? The quirky, integrated luggage system is one of the Brompton's best features! I'd seriously get it installed when you pick up your bike. Not only is it convenient for carrying stuff, I've found that a bit of weight on the carrier block helps smooth out the twitchiness of the front end, and dampens vibrations.
- Yes. Ergon Biokorks are great.
- Go for a cool helmet. Get the one that is the "smallest" so that it packs the most compactly when traveling. You don't need the latest aerodynamic styling.
- I use a teflon based lubricant. Works well. I'm sure NYCE can recommend something.
- Other hints? If you've got the B&W case, be sure to pad up the interior well so that the Brompton doesn't bang around and break the case when handled roughly.
Good luck!
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...zonation+ergon
Why do you have to wait 6 to 8 weeks? I thought NYCE Wheels had most configurations in stock?
As for your questions:
- No idea if the 2013 model comes with the Brompton tool. I'm guessing no. It might be cheaper to assemble your own tools and bundle them into a small bag.
- I think, frankly, that the included pump sucks. No polite way to put it. It's great for an emergency, but for regular inflation, get a third party pump. Because you normally want to run the tires at significantly higher pressure than larger tires, get a pump that: 1) can fold out to include a little foot rest to stabilize the feet by stepping on it; 2) a built in gauge otherwise you'll have to keep checking with a hand gauge; 3) has a comfortable foldable T-style handle - you're going to be exerting a lot of force to get a high volume of air into those small tires. I have an Axiom Enforcer hand pump.
- No carrier block? The quirky, integrated luggage system is one of the Brompton's best features! I'd seriously get it installed when you pick up your bike. Not only is it convenient for carrying stuff, I've found that a bit of weight on the carrier block helps smooth out the twitchiness of the front end, and dampens vibrations.
- Yes. Ergon Biokorks are great.
- Go for a cool helmet. Get the one that is the "smallest" so that it packs the most compactly when traveling. You don't need the latest aerodynamic styling.
- I use a teflon based lubricant. Works well. I'm sure NYCE can recommend something.
- Other hints? If you've got the B&W case, be sure to pad up the interior well so that the Brompton doesn't bang around and break the case when handled roughly.
Good luck!
thank you for the input
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Also currently non of the folding helmets on the market meet US safety standards so its something im gonna pass on, also i believe the bern helmets however cool dont even attempt to meet any regulatory standards, and again a pump question what PSI do the schwalbe marathon tires need to be pumped.
01-30-13, 02:11 PM
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Wont pass CSPC , then It cannot be sold here .. simple as that.
will it fold on impact?. that is not a good feature..
will it fold on impact?. that is not a good feature..
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Hello everyone, this is my first post, and just last week i ordered a B-spoke Brompton. I ordered the H3L with the telescopic seat(im 6ft, 175lbs) and the brooks saddle, im getting the body in racing green and the rest in black, i dont think i need to post a pic, you all seem to know your stuff. Before I ask my questions let me give you all some of my cycling background, i grew up riding bikes in upstate NY but once i started driving and got a car biking fell to the side, but i now live in manhattan and havent bike ridden in several up until a few weeks i was on an extended vacation to miami, where i used a generic walmart bicycle that one of my cousins have, and i found myself doing a 10 mile ride everyday and this was one my favorite things to do on my trip. So i started researching bikes to buy to keep in manhattan and i came across the folding bike category that i didnt know existed until two weeks ago, and fits perfectly the small manhattan apt lifestyle. I quickly discovered through some research that brompton is the best and after scouring this forum and really anything i could read online about the subject i pulled the trigger and ordered my brompton from nyce wheels.( I am of the opinion BUY RIGHT, BUY ONCE) and waiting 6-8 weeks works out perfectly for me because its to cold, wet, and snowy, now and in 8 weeks i will be back in FL so i even went ahead and ordered the B&W hard case. Now for the Questions.
- So ordered the 2013 model does that include the brompton tool or is that sold separately?
- What is the general opinion of the including pump, is it worth carrying or cqn you recommend a higher quality pump with built in gauge that fits on the mount or not, i usually carry a back pack(I didnt get the carrier block, i like back packs)?
- i was thinking of ordering new grips b/c everyone says such nasty things about the brompton ones, does ergon gp3 biocork effect the fold at all?
- I need to order a helmet, I see there are many very high quality helmets out there for the serious riders, but im looking more for something that fits the classic cool styling of the brompton and fits my color scheme with out compromising one drop on safety?
- Also any recommendations of an oil or grease on hand for the chain or any other contact points that may need some occasional lubricating?
- and last but not least any other thoughts or insights that i may have overlooked or not know about would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all for your time,
Alex
- So ordered the 2013 model does that include the brompton tool or is that sold separately?
- What is the general opinion of the including pump, is it worth carrying or cqn you recommend a higher quality pump with built in gauge that fits on the mount or not, i usually carry a back pack(I didnt get the carrier block, i like back packs)?
- i was thinking of ordering new grips b/c everyone says such nasty things about the brompton ones, does ergon gp3 biocork effect the fold at all?
- I need to order a helmet, I see there are many very high quality helmets out there for the serious riders, but im looking more for something that fits the classic cool styling of the brompton and fits my color scheme with out compromising one drop on safety?
- Also any recommendations of an oil or grease on hand for the chain or any other contact points that may need some occasional lubricating?
- and last but not least any other thoughts or insights that i may have overlooked or not know about would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all for your time,
Alex
The tool kit is sold separately and goes for $70 - $75 depending on what the dealer is asking for it. After looking it over on the web, I ordered one for my bike. Yes, I could probably assemble something for less but I like the way it fits securely in the bike. After the bike and kit arrive I will investigate how well it will meet most likely needs and if necessary, supplement it but I really hope that won't be necessary. I'll carry a spare tube and patch kit.
I hope the pump is adequate because it would be nice to have it carried on the bike rather than carry a separate pump. I am used to inflating my tandem tires before every ride with a good floor pump that has an accurate gage. For the Brompton, I hope to get a sense of how much air loss there is typically after a day and just add a few pumps or whatever. I will use my hand as a gauge although I know that it is not accurate but I think I'll be able to keep the tires in a proper range.
I have no plans to replace the grips. When they get worn, I'll probably just wrap with a good bar tape. If I experience discomfort, then I will look into alternative grips, but I don't plan to solve a problem until I have one. Same with saddle - I hope to use the standard Brompton saddle. If it is uncomfortable, I will pull the Terry Fly Ti saddle off of my tandem and try it on the Brompton. But I love the look of the Brooks saddles and Ergon grips and would never question why someone else would want to get them.
No comment on helmet - lots of good choices.
Unless the Brompton chain is different from other new chains you should not need to lube it for a long time. They come from the factory with a very good, long lasting lubricant. When it eventually does need to be lubed I'll probably use what I use for my other bikes - White Lightning Epic Ride. It is a synthetic lubricant almost like a wax that supposedly prevents grime build up. I like it and use it through four seasons and the chain stays clean, unless I use another type of lube and then it seems that I can never get it really clean again. After the initial lubricant from the new chain has worn off I apply the Epic Ride about every fifth ride or so. Apply to the moving chain while turning the pedal and wipe off the excess with a rag. If you ride a lot, eventually you may want to pick up one of those little cleaning kits that allows you to clean the chain pretty well without removing it from the bike.
Other thoughts? Riding a bike is a simple wonderful pleasure. You are fortunate that you have rediscovered it.
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ill probably ending buying the tool kit if its not included, and i still need to buy a pump but it seems like there are a few good option, doublediamond, thank you for your input
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The Schwalbe Marathon for a Brompton has 65-110 PSI on the sidewall. Brompton recommends for Marathons:
Front: 60 to 75 PSI, 85 PSI max.
Rear: 70 to 85 PSI, 85 PSI max.
See: https://support.brompton.co.uk/entrie...tyre-pressures
-HANK RYAN-
Norman, Oklahoma USA
Front: 60 to 75 PSI, 85 PSI max.
Rear: 70 to 85 PSI, 85 PSI max.
See: https://support.brompton.co.uk/entrie...tyre-pressures
-HANK RYAN-
Norman, Oklahoma USA
01-30-13, 04:08 PM
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Also currently non of the folding helmets on the market meet US safety standards so its something im gonna pass on, also i believe the bern helmets however cool dont even attempt to meet any regulatory standards, and again a pump question what PSI do the schwalbe marathon tires need to be pumped.
01-30-13, 04:53 PM
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I took this exerpt from bhsi.org
"Bern's helmets are skate or ski shaped, so they are very well-rounded except for the rigid visor on one. They have small vents, and none has enough ventilation for hard bicycle riding in warm weather. Some of them use Brock Foam, a formulation that provides multi-impact protection, but those are called hard hats rather than helmets and Bern says they "do not meet action sports head protection standards" but may work better in lesser multiple impacts to prevent concussion. Just don't hit too hard! Their catalog is very clear on the helmet liners that meet impact standards and the ones that do not. You can check the sticker inside to be sure. Caution: some of Bern's models come with different liners that do or don't meet the CPSC bike helmet standard. That includes their Macon, Brentwood, Watts and Brighton models. In their 2012 helmet article Consumer Reports listed a Bern Brighton as Poor.
For their 2012 helmet articleConsumer Reports tested one of Bern's helmet models, the Brighton, and found that it did not meet the impact performance requirements of the CPSC standard, rating it Poor. The Brighton comes in both CPSC and non-CPSC models.
Bern has a trademarked Zip Mold foam that they say uses liquid injected foam that is molded in the shell and is used in helmets that meet the CPSC bike helmet standard. It is expanded polyurethane (EPU) a foam in use for many years by a few Taiwanese manufacturers."
It would seem some of their helmets meet safety standards some dont even attempt to, but consumer reports did their own independent testing and gave them a poor rating as well as nutcase Received a poor rating from consumer reports, although would like a stylish helmet i will not compromise on safety i may just end up with a standard style helmet as long as it has high safety ratings from a 3rd party source
"Bern's helmets are skate or ski shaped, so they are very well-rounded except for the rigid visor on one. They have small vents, and none has enough ventilation for hard bicycle riding in warm weather. Some of them use Brock Foam, a formulation that provides multi-impact protection, but those are called hard hats rather than helmets and Bern says they "do not meet action sports head protection standards" but may work better in lesser multiple impacts to prevent concussion. Just don't hit too hard! Their catalog is very clear on the helmet liners that meet impact standards and the ones that do not. You can check the sticker inside to be sure. Caution: some of Bern's models come with different liners that do or don't meet the CPSC bike helmet standard. That includes their Macon, Brentwood, Watts and Brighton models. In their 2012 helmet article Consumer Reports listed a Bern Brighton as Poor.
For their 2012 helmet articleConsumer Reports tested one of Bern's helmet models, the Brighton, and found that it did not meet the impact performance requirements of the CPSC standard, rating it Poor. The Brighton comes in both CPSC and non-CPSC models.
Bern has a trademarked Zip Mold foam that they say uses liquid injected foam that is molded in the shell and is used in helmets that meet the CPSC bike helmet standard. It is expanded polyurethane (EPU) a foam in use for many years by a few Taiwanese manufacturers."
It would seem some of their helmets meet safety standards some dont even attempt to, but consumer reports did their own independent testing and gave them a poor rating as well as nutcase Received a poor rating from consumer reports, although would like a stylish helmet i will not compromise on safety i may just end up with a standard style helmet as long as it has high safety ratings from a 3rd party source
01-30-13, 11:55 PM
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I was more commenting on the tweedy look of the carbon fabric on shell..
get whatever helmet you like . the maximum safety lore says you will need a new replacement one
every 48 months anyhow. so no purpose in getting attached to any of them..
get whatever helmet you like . the maximum safety lore says you will need a new replacement one
every 48 months anyhow. so no purpose in getting attached to any of them..
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you must cut the width so as to avoid hitting the brake levers. i have the ergon gc2 grips with mini bar-ends. love them.
https://www.backcountry.com/ergon-gc2-grip
https://www.backcountry.com/ergon-gc2-grip
I'm considering the "S" type bar. Looks like the clamp diameter is 25.4. Any reason from a folding perspective I couldn't run a slightly wider 25.4 bar with a similar radius with the above grips/bars ends?
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Also, for anyone who might be interested there is a Shutter Precision dynamo hub that falls between Shimano and Schmidt in price/weight.
Up until a few days ago there was an ebay seller listing complete wheels.
Up until a few days ago there was an ebay seller listing complete wheels.
01-31-13, 11:37 AM
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I'm considering the "S" type bar. Looks like the clamp diameter is 25.4.
Any reason from a folding perspective I couldn't run a slightly wider 25.4 bar
with a similar radius with the above grips/bars ends?
Any reason from a folding perspective I couldn't run a slightly wider 25.4 bar
with a similar radius with the above grips/bars ends?
any further apart and the brake cables and housing need to be longer..
Fwiw holding on to the bar ends , is the widest part , may be adequate..
S bar, can use standard length Ergon Grips.. being 'straight' ..
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Thanks. With slightly wider bars and an additional hand position from bar ends a Brompton is a LOT more appealing to me.
I'd consider upgrading the cables and housing (and brake pads to Kool Stop Salmon) at the time of purchase anyway.
I'd consider upgrading the cables and housing (and brake pads to Kool Stop Salmon) at the time of purchase anyway.
01-31-13, 12:29 PM
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I think Kool Stop Shimano Road inserts slide right in the pad holder..
they use Very good cables and housing Now, Jagwire, & teflon coated cable,
you likely, wont be upgrading , just replacing short, with longer parts.
FWIW,
looking at the data, the riser for the H bar arrives at a similar height,
for the bar clamp, as the S riser, the reach bend is a bit different,
and the hinge is higher up, so the M [part of the H build] bar
wont hit the ground, when folded down.
so a few inches is gained when playing around with different bars.
they use Very good cables and housing Now, Jagwire, & teflon coated cable,
you likely, wont be upgrading , just replacing short, with longer parts.
FWIW,
looking at the data, the riser for the H bar arrives at a similar height,
for the bar clamp, as the S riser, the reach bend is a bit different,
and the hinge is higher up, so the M [part of the H build] bar
wont hit the ground, when folded down.
so a few inches is gained when playing around with different bars.
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Just an Update,
I received my bike and if course im in love with it, i got the road morph pump, and its seems the brompton toolkit has been recalled so for now I have a topeak toolkit. Also in the end i got a front block and got the mini O bag and will probably get a larger bag soon, just have to decide which one. i already brought the bike with my on a trip via plane with a B&W cases and had zero propblems with united airlines. so far sticking with the stock grips because i do not feel they are lacking so much
I received my bike and if course im in love with it, i got the road morph pump, and its seems the brompton toolkit has been recalled so for now I have a topeak toolkit. Also in the end i got a front block and got the mini O bag and will probably get a larger bag soon, just have to decide which one. i already brought the bike with my on a trip via plane with a B&W cases and had zero propblems with united airlines. so far sticking with the stock grips because i do not feel they are lacking so much
04-05-13, 05:10 PM
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I also just recently bought a Brompton, S type, 6 spd.
Was on vacation in Puerto Rico and stopped by a local
folding bike shop. Negotiated a cash deal with the store
for a stock bike they had. Rode the bike a few times then
slipped it back in the factory cardboard box. Checked it as
free 1st luggage with Jetblue; Puerto Rico to New Jersey.
No damage when I got home.
For on board luggage, I went with Demano. They're made from
recycled advertising banners, no two are the same; plus the
patterns are much nicer I think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5Mzmv7hCk
Was on vacation in Puerto Rico and stopped by a local
folding bike shop. Negotiated a cash deal with the store
for a stock bike they had. Rode the bike a few times then
slipped it back in the factory cardboard box. Checked it as
free 1st luggage with Jetblue; Puerto Rico to New Jersey.
No damage when I got home.
For on board luggage, I went with Demano. They're made from
recycled advertising banners, no two are the same; plus the
patterns are much nicer I think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5Mzmv7hCk
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I looked at the handle bar height of the 4 bar options, and where the clamps for the bar center
of the H (which is the M bar) with the hinge up 3 cm.. and the riser for the S bar which is flat .
So replacing the handlebar on an H bike with a rise between flat and the M type.. offers an adjustment ..
of the H (which is the M bar) with the hinge up 3 cm.. and the riser for the S bar which is flat .
So replacing the handlebar on an H bike with a rise between flat and the M type.. offers an adjustment ..
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