roadwarrior

Fixed it for you.



Here's the "real" Motobecane...MBK sponsors Agritubel in the pro peloton, makes a geat bike but I doubt you'll find one or very many here in the US.

dcbikeguy

Every once in a while, sure.

"Period"? You can't be serious son. I just googled "cheap road bike" and "inexpensive road bike" and BD didn't come up once (NOT ONCE!) in the first four pages of hits. What did come up several times however, was this forum. Hmmmm, now what can we conclude from this...woops, there I go being Barney again

Correct, so what's your point?

Fixed.

wanders

That's interesting. My buddy got caught in the rain on his and the frame dissolved right out from underneath him.

rufvelo

If he was smart, he would have dashed for cover as soon as the clearcoat washed away, then later applied Pinarello stickers.

rufvelo

Correct answer.

She will tell you exactly what she wants (something worth about 3 months salary) and hopefully you will not preempt her by showing up with a Moto all wrapped up with a large pink bow.

wanders

If you just "stumbled" across them today, how did you know about the Mercier on Sept 1?

steaktaco

Bu-hu-husted.

steaktaco

Not exactly true. My girl races, has raced for several years and doesn't have any interest in her bikes. All she wants is that it's light and pretty.

buddy

Could it be that people that attack bd so vehemently are shills for the LBS lobby? Why else would a person care if one buys a bike on line or at LBS.

Maybe there should be a FAQ concerning BD. One link could be “Negative point to consider before buying from BD”- lack of support and sizing issues... Another link could be “Positive points to consider before buying at BD” – great prices…

All of the antidotal experiences both good and bad could include in a link. You could have a link “I love my moto” and another link could be “I hate your moto”.

If there was a FAQ concerning bd when a person posted “I just found this great deal on a bike, is it too good to be true” that person could be directed to the BD FAQ.

I do not believe that BD has shills posting requesting info on bd. I take Mike at his word. I appreciate his interaction on this board and I enjoy his post. There is not another bike manufacture who post on this board. But if there were shills for bd a FAQ would take care of the problem.

Buddy

For the record I just ordered a Bottecchia from Bottecchia USA. So I guess I have drank the kool-aid I must be a shill. I hope my check comes in quickly from bd so I can pay for my bike! :-)

fixedup

whoa, someones an internet creep with too much time. If you spent that much time looking at my posts why didnt you read the one I just posted saying I never looked at anything on that site BUT the three or four fixed gear bikes, NEVER looked at the road bikes, like I stated EARLIER. Jeez all you roadies are so pretentious.

sancocho

dudes, come on!

her 2200 isn't even a female-specific bike!

fixedup

All I did was ask about these bikes i'd never heard of, she does know what she wants, she wants a specialized ruby frameset, I was just looking at what else is out there to give her ideas, and since i've never heard of these bikes I figured I'd post on the road forum to get some credible answers. Now either you guys are a bunch of stuck up rich asses that just buy the greatest thing cause you can and dont know much about anything, or you're just stuck up in general, too much so to offer any sound advice. Thanks to the people who actually replied that had something worthy of reading.

bikesdirect_com

You should google 'how google works'
and learn more about the search engine before making assumptions

We pay for and get over 500,000 impressions per day
those result in thousands of click thrus per day

we have a list of search terms we 'bid' on
and most road bike, mountain bike, tri bike, and track bike terms are included

try 'road bike' - several times any day
most of the time you will see our ad

same is true on yahoo, msn, and ask

this is part of the reason so many new buyers see us and wonder about our deals
a very very small percentage of those post questions on BF, RBR, or MTBR
but even that small percetage is hundreds of people
calling them shills makes no sense and makes the basher look uninformed;
but my feeling is such behavoir just increases the chance the new buyer will but from us

mike

dcbikeguy

You should practice better reading comprehension before you criticize my post. I did what I did in response to the previous poster. AND, you shouldn't assume that I don't know how search engines work. What, you are the most informed person here? Pleeeaaase.

But I guess you have to come back at me with something, right? Well done Mike.

BrianC636

My opinion, not that it means much, on BD is very good so far.

I just got my road bike from them $1095 (full ultegra, Mercier). When it came in it has 2 bent spokes (UPS damage) and a blown rear tube (not sure how that happened). I called them the same day to get repair parts. They sent them to me in a timely manor and at no charge. For what I have, I’m glad I bought from them.

mwrobe1

Best thread evar!

But my BS meter is still pegged.

BSMeter.jpg

Someone else said it best...if the gf really raced...she would know what to get.

fixedup

And I just said previously, she already has one picked out, I was just looking at other deals to see what else there was. Maybe if you spent time reading the posts instead of getting all stiff in the pants cause you can use your cute little bs meter then maybe you could've spared us with your wasted efforts.

mwrobe1

I already had my morning wood...that was hours ago. Its lunchtime now.

Plus, I like to think of the BS meter as "practical", never cute. YMMV.

bikesdirect_com

My reading comprehension sure could use improvement
However, I am fairly good at math

Your 'sample' of 4 attempts out of millions of time / phase combos on google is a very very small sample size - small enough that it proved little to nothing

Maybe I should not assume you do not understand the search engines; but your ad-hock sample design sure indicates some lack of knowledge concerning google -- in addition to what jumping to 1 or 2 conclusions indicates

The OP is a shopper looking for objective information
I think he can probably figure out which info he gets here is useful and which comments can be ignored

The one thing I know is: attacking him will not help him with his quest to make a good purchase decision

mike

bikesdirect_com

I am not sure who said that
but it is certainly not correct in my experience [which only includes 30 years of selling bikes to all types of riders - including racers]

My wife races and she does not always know what she wants in equipment.
And my experience has been most racers who are paying for their own equipment have a hard time deciding what is best.

Research is good
Comparison is good

mike

DZA_LA

I love BD

dcbikeguy

Let me do this step by step for you Mike, OK? Try and keep up.

This is what texascyclist wrote...

In response, I went to google and searched for "cheap road bike" and "inexpensive road bike" (two searches Mike, not four). BD was nowhere to be found among the hits. You with me? Maybe to be totally clear I should have also searched for "super inexpensive bike" - which I just did. I quickly browsed through the first 10 pages of hits. Guess what? BD was nowhere among he hits. So can you agree with me now that what texascyclist wrote, namely that "If you are a newb google around to find super inexpensive bike online, you are going to end up at BD period" is a load of BS?

I agree. He should certainly be exposed to all views, including those that are critical of your efforts - as painful for you as that must be.

Correct. Perhaps I owe him an apology. fixedup - please forgive me. You're probably a sweet dude.

That is all.

rickhigbee

I think the OP is right. For the most part, you guys are a bunch of stuck-up eliteist. You should be excited anytime someone new wants to come into our sport and offer constructive help and encouragement. Face it, not everyone can afford a $3000+ bike. In fact, I'd wager that most of you that can really have no business on one anyway. All most of you do is complain about BD's advertising tactics, the mystery "shills" and how you think BD bikes are "ugly". However, few of you ever offer any critisim of the bikes themselves. Maybe you don't like to looks of them or their understated graphics; I understand that. Still, I think the concensus among those of us that own Merciers, Motos, Dawes, etc is that you get good componets and a quality frame at a competitive price. How many other manufactures bother to visit these boards answering questions and looking for opinions. I appreciate what Mike is trying to do and if it flies in the face of elitest bike snob convention, all the better.

Btw... google simply "road bikes" or "road bike deals" and see what you find. Maybe he's not interested in having the word "cheap" associated with his product.

jkizzle

well the op wasn't new to cycling... but i will say that i CANNOT defend my dawes road bike. It was not purchased at BD though. That being said, I would not buy a name that was not well known again, which unfortunately is what is offered frequently at BD. This in turn, tempts me away from BD, though some of their bikes probably are great deals and I have no reason to base an opinion on motobecane on my poor experience with dawes.

still, I am considering to buy from there, some of their packages would be worth buying just to get the components, then i would probably ebay off the rest of the parts i didnt feel were quality.

joecool2727

Did you ever consider buying the Motobecane Le Champion for the same price instead of the mercier? I just purchased the moto but was also interested in the mercier, what made you choose the mercier?