Afraid of the Road
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For me, it took a combination of hard lessons*, friends giving advice, reading up on the laws, and (like you said) getting used to it. 90% of the riding I do is on roads with heavy traffic and a 45mph speed limit, and when I first started out it was mostly for commuting and I stuck to the sidewalks. Eventually I just learned that, "Hey, cars are looking out for other cars...and they're on the road. I'm more visible this way!"
*hard lesson: i got hit by cars twice. both times it certainly would have been avoided by behaving like the motor-vehicle the law classifies me as and staying on the road. both times i was a dummy and using the sidewalk/crosswalk, and was lucky the car was going <5mph and just knocked me over. (the guy in the BMW offered to pay $200 for my bent derailleur though )
ps- riding on roads with marked bike lanes helped get me used to it a lot faster. learning to listen to how engines sound as they're approaching you, the wind, etc
*hard lesson: i got hit by cars twice. both times it certainly would have been avoided by behaving like the motor-vehicle the law classifies me as and staying on the road. both times i was a dummy and using the sidewalk/crosswalk, and was lucky the car was going <5mph and just knocked me over. (the guy in the BMW offered to pay $200 for my bent derailleur though )
ps- riding on roads with marked bike lanes helped get me used to it a lot faster. learning to listen to how engines sound as they're approaching you, the wind, etc
i ride pretty much all of my miles on roads in NYC. i'll alter my routes and add a bit of distance if necessary if it keeps me on a bike lane for more time, but this isn't always possible, so i'm pretty comfortable riding in traffic. cab drivers still scare the crap out of me and i have a fear of being "doored" in particular, but i think that fear keeps my situational awareness really high.
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I wasn't thinking very clearly when I wrote this. No, I didn't did leave a motorcycle in the dust as I pedaled away on a bicycle-oh how I wish. I crashed a motorcycle, this what I meant when I say I dropped a motorcycle.
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I love riding during the middle of the day or on the weekend when there isn't as much traffic. I have a healthy fear of getting run over and I'm always a lot more relaxed riding at 10am than I am riding after work at 5:30pm.
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If the op has not experience and this is his 1st accident.. sorry for him but to feel like cr@p in his house felling compassion of himself wont help him. He has to realize that. Just like the chick that after the 1st fall leaves the 5000 dollars bike in the garage and the boyfriend felling like an @ss because he tries to get her in the bike again. Some people simply can't handle stuff as small as those you know, IMO their minds just freak out...
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I rode on CO-93 the other day, on my ride from uptown Denver to downtown Boulder. It was scary. On a long slow climb, I had to dismount and walk in the gravel on the side of the highway (no shoulder) because there were so many huge semi trucks passing me with less than a foot of clearance. The next climb, there weren't very many trucks because there aren't very many destinations past a certain point on the previous descent that need shipments of things like gravel, so I was fine. Just the occasional close pass, but I lived! On the downhill into Boulder, I hit about 38mph (I didn't have my roadie yet, otherwise the speeds would have been in excess of 45mph. I am still confident in riding on city streets, but I'm not sure I ever want to ride on a highway again.
For you Coloradoans, I took the Cherry Creek MUP to Platte st, Platte st to 32nd, 32nd to McIntyre, McIntyre to 64th, 64th to CO-93. Even on that road populated (McIntyre) greatly by semi trucks, I felt safer than on CO-93.
For you Coloradoans, I took the Cherry Creek MUP to Platte st, Platte st to 32nd, 32nd to McIntyre, McIntyre to 64th, 64th to CO-93. Even on that road populated (McIntyre) greatly by semi trucks, I felt safer than on CO-93.
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"I took bad risks and was really quite scared."
Well, don't take bad risks and you'll be fine.
Well, don't take bad risks and you'll be fine.
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Been down on the motorcycle twice. Once on ice, once thanks to a truck. I'm no longer fearless, but you really can't be timid in traffic on any 2 wheeler so you just have to assert yourself. Never had problems with traffic on the bike. Mainly I think because I avoid all busy roads and ride on trails or at times when there simply isn't any traffic.
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another HUGE tip is that you must anticipate others and prepare. if you think a car might turn left in front of you either because they don't see you, or they think you're just a 'slow bicycle' then it is wise to cover your brakes or slow down, because the consequences of a collision are far higher for you than a car.
if you ride like you expect every car to be doing stupid ****, if not outwardly trying to kill you, then you'll ride much more safely and you will have fewer incidents.
we cyclists can't kid ourselves, though. 'fewer' is not zero. you could get smacked by a drunk or inattentive driver on any given ride.
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The number one imperative is gaining the judgment to know what really is risky, without injuring yourself in the process. Starting out, everything we say about vehicular cycling feels like a risk.
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I don't think I've gone biking for a week after having my first real run in traffic. I took bad risks and was really quite scared. I want to go biking again (at a time with less traffic, even), but I've developed this fear of the road.
Is there any way to overcome this other than to just keep riding and getting used to it? I know road safety, I've read tons about it, but it's still scary.
Is there any way to overcome this other than to just keep riding and getting used to it? I know road safety, I've read tons about it, but it's still scary.
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I'm strongly tempted to get some kind of mirror system so I can see what's coming up behind me. I know, there's the Fred Factor, but I'm more worried about the Death-By-Texting-SUV-Driver Factor. At least if I can see them swerving around behind me, I might stand a fighting chance to get out of the way before they plow into me in their Hummer...
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Well don't take risks. Just ride legally. Stop and stop signs and red lights. Pay attention to your lane position - stay as far right as safe, but no further. Don't be afraid to take the lane if you need to.
There are real dangers out there, but they are tremendously minimized by just not doing silly things. Cycing is, statistically, very very safe.
There are real dangers out there, but they are tremendously minimized by just not doing silly things. Cycing is, statistically, very very safe.
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Choosing good routes is key. Plan where you are going and find the best way. Don't find yourself in a place where you really have no business being.
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I tried two helmet mirrors and neither of them worked for me despite 10+ hours of trying. they were too small to see anything useful, very distracting anywhere near the primary field of vision, and I unintentionally ignored them when I put them on the periphery. (I just didn't notice anything.)
Never wear headphones and pay attention. That's what I do and you probably don't need mirrors.
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anything but a helmet mirror is hard to use on a road bike because of big variations in where your head is at when you're in the tops, drops and hoods. if you ride predominantly one position you can put a mirror somewhere on your bike and at least have that, though. downtube mirrors are good in the drops, and bar ends (like spintech) are ok for the hoods.
I tried two helmet mirrors and neither of them worked for me despite 10+ hours of trying. they were too small to see anything useful, very distracting anywhere near the primary field of vision, and I unintentionally ignored them when I put them on the periphery. (I just didn't notice anything.)
Never wear headphones and pay attention. That's what I do and you probably don't need mirrors.
I tried two helmet mirrors and neither of them worked for me despite 10+ hours of trying. they were too small to see anything useful, very distracting anywhere near the primary field of vision, and I unintentionally ignored them when I put them on the periphery. (I just didn't notice anything.)
Never wear headphones and pay attention. That's what I do and you probably don't need mirrors.
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Mounting the power source might be an issue.
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1. Education: Go to Commute Orlando and learn how to ride in traffic. Some practices that seem dangerous (such as taking the lane) are much safer than common practices (such as riding the gutter).
2. Awareness: Get a helmet- or glasses-mounted mirror to monitor traffic behind you.
2. Awareness: Get a helmet- or glasses-mounted mirror to monitor traffic behind you.
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Now, a 1% chance of death every ten years is high. Much higher than it should be. But what fraction of the time could safe cycling practices and precautions have avoided a fatal collision?--Probably a very large fraction of the time. And what fraction of fatal collisions involved seasoned bike commuters or road cyclists? If you're a safe, cautious, and law-abiding cyclist your odds of being involved in a fatal collision in your lifetime are probably well below 1%.
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