Taking photos while moving
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Just to freak out some people I tried to find the photo I took while riding on Interstate 90 near Clinton, MT. Must have deleted it before uploading it to my computer.
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As I noted, he's only endangering himself. Well, and the person immediately in front of him.
When not paying attention to what's happening in front of the bike, one is increasing the chances that something bad will happen. Some of his photos showed him to be only a few feet behind the guy in front of him; if something goes wrong with that guy, there will be a collision.
When not paying attention to what's happening in front of the bike, one is increasing the chances that something bad will happen. Some of his photos showed him to be only a few feet behind the guy in front of him; if something goes wrong with that guy, there will be a collision.
Even though you have already caused some self-inflicted wounds, I still think it's a good idea for you to leave this thread.
P.S. That's a woman in front of me, and she was never in danger of colliding with me.
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On that road along the creek I only recall one car in 40 miles, although there could have been one or two others.
Just to freak out some people I tried to find the photo I took while riding on Interstate 90 near Clinton, MT. Must have deleted it before uploading it to my computer.
Just to freak out some people I tried to find the photo I took while riding on Interstate 90 near Clinton, MT. Must have deleted it before uploading it to my computer.
Truth is that highway riding is some of the easiest--you just have to keep in the breakdown lane and hope no one decides to swoop in from behind. Obviously, I don't ride interstates in New England, but some of the 55 mph state roads are pretty similar, and I can go 20 miles or more without encountering any cross traffic.
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I was horribly maimed and later succumbed to my injuries after taking this picture with my iPhone. Pulled it out of my pocket and pressed a button. Then died, as I said earlier.
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As to the point, lots of things are "distracted cycling". Talking to people while riding is a distraction, turning your head slightly to look at a dog is a distraction, biting a Clif bar (yuck!) is a distraction, pulling a water bottle out of a cage is a distraction,, itching your nose is a distraction, shifting a gear is a distraction--should I go on?
I wouldn't take photos while riding because I have eyesight issues, but I'm not at all skeptical that some people have found ways of doing it safely in some contexts.
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Yep. They still process film.
https://photo.walgreens.com/store/film-processing
There are a lot of Luddites still out there. Sometimes when I tour in rural America I see VHS tapes for rent at small stores. I'm coming up on my two-year anniversary of getting a smart phone, and I have never downloaded an App. Not certain I would even have it if my employer didn't give it to me and weren't paying the bill.
https://photo.walgreens.com/store/film-processing
There are a lot of Luddites still out there. Sometimes when I tour in rural America I see VHS tapes for rent at small stores. I'm coming up on my two-year anniversary of getting a smart phone, and I have never downloaded an App. Not certain I would even have it if my employer didn't give it to me and weren't paying the bill.
As far as a smart phone goes, I use mine to track my mileage on my bike using Strava or Runtastic. Of course I don't know what the rules are regarding your employer-provided phone, but I've found these apps to be quite handy.
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one of my friends showed me a phone steadicam sort of thing, with an auxiliary battery in the handle ..
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I used to take my phone out for the occasional pic until I lost balance and crashed into my wife’s bike going a decent speed. Got some good road rash and put the first few scratches on a new bike. Yeah, I’ll stop next time. There is no image worth my safety or of those around me.
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This was my death photo. I feel like it was worth it.
Sorry about the blurry GPS in this shot. It says I was going 50 MPH in my 70 tooth ring.
-Tim-
Sorry about the blurry GPS in this shot. It says I was going 50 MPH in my 70 tooth ring.
-Tim-
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I also recognize I won't change your point of view, nor will you change mine.
Let's cycle on.
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I have found it hard to get a shot of the head unit showing +300w since I'm working hard
& things are moving around at the time.
Just missed it here.
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Some pictures are much easier to take while riding. Sometimes it is even safer riding than standing still in the same position as the photo was taken while riding. It is pretty hard to get a picture that shows what riding in traffic is about without riding in traffic.
This was much safer than standing in the middle of the road. My wife and I took 10,000 pictures on a 3-month tour, and more than 99% were take standing still.
If was standing still for this picture I'd get one or two shots. While riding next to her I was able to get over a dozen shots.
We have pictures of my wife taking a picture of me while I was taking a picture of her. Both of us were riding. If there is little traffic, I don't see a problem.
This was much safer than standing in the middle of the road. My wife and I took 10,000 pictures on a 3-month tour, and more than 99% were take standing still.
If was standing still for this picture I'd get one or two shots. While riding next to her I was able to get over a dozen shots.
We have pictures of my wife taking a picture of me while I was taking a picture of her. Both of us were riding. If there is little traffic, I don't see a problem.
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I am not interested in changing your "point of view," and me being younger or older than your average BF member (I am 54, BTW) or in a hurry has nothing to do with anything. Just wanted clarification. I do some fully loaded touring, which often has me averaging 10 mph at the end of the day. Stop to take a lot of pics and to snack and drink. (In fact, a photo from my 2017 tour in MT and ID is going to appear in the Spring/Summer edition of the Rails-to-Trails Conservancy newsletter.) At the same time, if I am climbing some 15 mile mountain in the heat I drink quite often. If I had to stop every time I needed a sip of water It would make a long, hard day even longer and harder. Heavily loaded bikes are a PITA to get started on an 8% grade.
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Yep.
Perhaps @tclune can tell me what appreciable risk I exposed myself and others to while taking this shot:
Perhaps @tclune can tell me what appreciable risk I exposed myself and others to while taking this shot:
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Video camera, grab still frames later. I do that a lot. VLC media player is great for frame grabs or short video snippets from long, boring bike videos.
Or set the video camera to still mode. Most can be set to shot a still every few seconds.
Mount the camera on your helmet and it'll photograph whatever you look at. With a handlebar mount and ballhead you can twist the camera to aim other directions as needed.
Sometimes I'll tuck an Olympus Toughcam into a jersey pocket for pix, but I don't often use it on group rides. I don't trust my balance enough to take my eyes off the road. I don't even look at the camera -- I set it to wide angle and just point the camera where I'm looking. I can fix level and crop issues later in Lightroom.
And I've seen too many cyclists fumble their cell phones to take photos -- worst ergonomics of any photography device, like a bar of soap.
Or set the video camera to still mode. Most can be set to shot a still every few seconds.
Mount the camera on your helmet and it'll photograph whatever you look at. With a handlebar mount and ballhead you can twist the camera to aim other directions as needed.
Sometimes I'll tuck an Olympus Toughcam into a jersey pocket for pix, but I don't often use it on group rides. I don't trust my balance enough to take my eyes off the road. I don't even look at the camera -- I set it to wide angle and just point the camera where I'm looking. I can fix level and crop issues later in Lightroom.
And I've seen too many cyclists fumble their cell phones to take photos -- worst ergonomics of any photography device, like a bar of soap.
Just because something can be done doesn't make it prudent or safe, or wise. That's what he's taking about. But I'm sure this isn't something you don't already know.
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Doesn't exactly look like they're going fast enough that there are going to be any split-second decisions needed, either. Is it dangerous to take a picture and walk at the same time?
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The comparison is stupid. The taking of the picture actually requires the photographer to pay attention to what's ahead of him, texting does exactly the opposite. A bicyclist shouldn't be texting while riding that path either.
Doesn't exactly look like they're going fast enough that there are going to be any split-second decisions needed, either. Is it dangerous to take a picture and walk at the same time?
Doesn't exactly look like they're going fast enough that there are going to be any split-second decisions needed, either. Is it dangerous to take a picture and walk at the same time?
Also, is this whole discussion only about taking pictures of what's in front of you and not the sides or rear?
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This is the best (and safest) way to do it. If you have the GoPro or other similar action camera it should be set to the highest resolution (4K) for the best rest results.
The thing about photography is that if you take enough photos you're bound to get some that look good. Nevertheless, that "random occurance" does not dismiss the fact that every time you take a hand off the handle bars and divert your attention you increase your likelihood of causing an accident or injury. Even taking a drink has to be at the right instance and under the right conditions, and that's a lot less distracting of your attention.
Just because something can be done doesn't make it prudent or safe, or wise. That's what he's taking about. But I'm sure this isn't something you don't already know.
The thing about photography is that if you take enough photos you're bound to get some that look good. Nevertheless, that "random occurance" does not dismiss the fact that every time you take a hand off the handle bars and divert your attention you increase your likelihood of causing an accident or injury. Even taking a drink has to be at the right instance and under the right conditions, and that's a lot less distracting of your attention.
Just because something can be done doesn't make it prudent or safe, or wise. That's what he's taking about. But I'm sure this isn't something you don't already know.
It's obviously a situational thing--there will be places where it's relatively safe to do it, and others where it never should be tried.
There are some things that are categorically unsafe that should just never be done--I would use texting while riding as an example, riding while drunk as another, and riding while blindfolded if you really need it to be extreme.
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Ok.. shift the discussion a bit. How about having a conversation on a cellphone while driving and not using a handsfree device; also I believe not legal. Or, there's talk to text I think now.
Also, is this whole discussion only about taking pictures of what's in front of you and not the sides or rear?
Also, is this whole discussion only about taking pictures of what's in front of you and not the sides or rear?
The phone one is kind of funny because I do almost all of my driving in two states, and one allows handheld phones and the other doesn't. Obviously, phone use in cars has its own balance of benefit vs. risk, so what's your point? Do I believe that someone driving on that path could talk on a phone safely? Yes, if they don't have to look at their phone in order to dial it. So what?
I assume anyone shooting in any other direction than right in front of them is probably just pointing the camera in that direction and clicking without looking, just hoping to catch something. Obviously, if you have to ride with your head turned for more than a second or so (something I do when I cross an intersection, btw), you're not operating safely.
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As an example.
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lol yup
I think doing more yoga would make me more flexible
I think doing more yoga would make me more flexible
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