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Do you consider a discarded banana peel to be litter?

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Old 11-18-09, 04:02 PM
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I see many banana peels on the shoulders of state/county highways all of the time. I thought they were placed there to cause me harm. A week later going on the same roads, the banana peels seem to disappear and reappear in other areas. This would support the 48 hour breakdown time another poster described. Now if the banana peel has a sticker on it, then yeah you are littering.
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Originally Posted by gpelpel
Technically a banana peel is biodegradable so not harmful to the environment. If you are the only one doing it it will be unnoticed and not an issue but imagine dozens, or hundreds, or even thousands of us doing the same thing. Not so good!
We then have to hire people to clean after us, this means more taxes or less money for important things such as safety, good roads, schools, healthcare...
What about somebody tripping on it? Lawyers would go after the local government agency for damages thus more of the above.
Isn't what we are all going through now? Paying taxes and seeing services go down the drain because too many of us don't take responsibility for their actions.
TX state law says it's litter. Out on a two lane road, I say fling 'em in the ditch, they'll be gone quick.
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Old 11-18-09, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by change
I usually carry at least two bananas with me on rides I intend to last more than three hours. Peels get tossed in the bushes as I pedal along. I do not, however, toss any cliff bar wrappers, GU packages, or anything else. Maybe a apple or pear core now and again on the rare occurrence that I take one on the ride.

Am I littering?
imho, no. Banana peels are so good for plants, and rot so quickly, that they are a positive addition to the green environment if you are really throwing them into the bushes. At the base of a fire hydrant, not so much.
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Old 11-18-09, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gash44
Yes littering is littering no matter how you look at it. Its all garbage.

it's not garbage, its a part of nature that is practically engineered to be left around by animals to help make more soil and give nutrients to plants.


if you dont throw it on the streets or in someone's property, then it is actually very nice of you to give the local insect communities a new adventure and mission
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No, it's not littering.

Anyone who says otherwise hates Earth.
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Old 11-18-09, 11:54 PM
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Biodegradable ... so no.
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Old 11-19-09, 12:13 AM
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It urks me to see banana peels littering the road. Gives cyclists a bad rap. Have the decency to toss it off the road into the dirt or a bush or shove it back in your jersey.

Another alternative is to throw one in the blender with your favorite electrolyte supplement and drink it as you ride.
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Old 11-19-09, 12:40 AM
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Absolutely NOT. I don't feel the need to explain that
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Old 11-19-09, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by garysol1
In my opinion Yes. Even though I do realize it is biodegradable a banana peel thrown on the side of the road is still an eyesore
He said in the bushes though.

I say no, even if directly on the road.
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Old 11-19-09, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by old and new
absolutely not. I don't feel the need to explain that
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Old 11-19-09, 02:39 AM
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I leave my peels wherever the f@#% I want.
Like here, for example.
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I used to throw apple cores and banana peels out of my car window. did it all my life. then one day some hippy yelled at me. i turned around not to start a fight but i was thinking, "This will be good." So i figure i have him in this argument until he explained to me that sweet fruits bring animals to the road and they get hit. i didn't really have an answer to that so now i only throw biocrap in canals or over bridges.
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I say no. I live on the edge of the universe (woods) and have thrown banana peels down while mowing. The ants have found it within a circuit or two with the mower and something else must get the rest because it's gone by the time I mow the next time, usually 4-5 days.
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Originally Posted by flak
no.

I wouldnt throw it on someones lawn, but in the bushes or woods or the side of a country road? Sure. It doesn't hurt anyone, and will be gone quickly anyway.
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Originally Posted by jbhowat
If it is just in some farm field or something, or a ditch, then no problem. Road, sidewalk, someone's yard - no good.
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by garethzbarker
I used to throw apple cores and banana peels out of my car window. did it all my life. then one day some hippy yelled at me. i turned around not to start a fight but i was thinking, "This will be good." So i figure i have him in this argument until he explained to me that sweet fruits bring animals to the road and they get hit. i didn't really have an answer to that so now i only throw biocrap in canals or over bridges.
The hippie was right. Toss the peels but far enough off the road so animals don't get hit by cars.
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During rides, my sinuses get a workout and I often have to clear them. So I spit. I guess that would be littering too. In Singapore, if caught, I might get flogged for that.
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Yes. It can take many weeks to degrade. In hot dry places like where I live it can take many months.
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Originally Posted by noisebeam
Yes. It can take many weeks to degrade. In hot dry places like where I live it can take many months.
In hot humid places like where I live it's gone in a matter of days.
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So it is OK to create litter if for a few days? Yuck.
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Originally Posted by change
I usually carry at least two bananas with me on rides I intend to last more than three hours. Peels get tossed in the bushes as I pedal along. I do not, however, toss any cliff bar wrappers, GU packages, or anything else. Maybe a apple or pear core now and again on the rare occurrence that I take one on the ride.

Am I littering?
So, if you do it. what keeps other people from doing it? How long to ugly banana peels take to disappear? If banana peels are OK, what about orange peels? Paper is biodegradable too. Is tossing McDonald's wrappers out OK?

The problem is that other people might not want to see your rotting garbage.

Originally Posted by Uni-Vibe
In hot humid places like where I live it's gone in a matter of days.
So, instead of a simple easy-to-follow rule (eg, "never litter"), the rule should be changed to be based on some temperature and degree of humidity and rate of degradation? If you ride the same route everyday and eat two bananas, then the bananas are never "gone"!

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Old 11-19-09, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gpelpel
Technically a banana peel is biodegradable so not harmful to the environment.
I've seen several people in this thread say something like this, so time to stop this crap before it gets any worse: biodegradability does not equal environmental harmlessness. Oil is a particularly good example; the stuff is complex organic molecules of biotic origin, most of which may be broken down by a large variety of microorganisms. And yet, spilling the stuff on the ground is pretty hazardous. Small amounts may not do much obvious damage, but it's a serious toxin and groundwater contaminant.

Of course, banana peels are more benign than oil, which is most infamous for being spilled in enormous quantities, something that doesn't happen with banana peels, but the point remains that biodegradable materials can cause all sorts of problems when disposed of improperly (luring animals to roadsides is a good example).

I'm not saying that you should landfill your banana peels or even that you should never throw them in the woods, but they should be disposed of and allowed to biodegrade responsibly. Mostly, stop believing the biodegradability makes something environmentally benign. It's simply not true.
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Originally Posted by grolby
Of course, banana peels are more benign than oil, which is most infamous for being spilled in enormous quantities, something that doesn't happen with banana peels...
I just got a fabulous image of a boatload of banana peels being spilled and spreading across the beaches of Central America...
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