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Old 02-08-12, 10:11 AM
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Your point?
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I was given one off those as a wedding present. I have had occasion to use it once, but it works well.
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you suggesting it is a sticker got me a little perturbed so went down and took the forks off the bike and NO sticker just stamped into the metal stearing tube the following BREV Campagnola-Lg-200-(dametersign o with slash through it) 2.54 x 24F.
this is certainly no decal or sticker, its the real deal.

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Originally Posted by sauze
Campy corkscrews are better because they use the finest bearings (ones that no one else can buy) and you can rebuild them. When you use it, it will be tight at first because of the close tolerances, but it will get better over time.
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Originally Posted by Chombi
Everyone and everyone has been giving away Campagnolo decals and stickers to everyone for many many years. It must be the most printed bicycle related decal out there........So they end up stuck on everything like.....bike frames..... and I bet you, even an occasional cat and dog!

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you suggesting it is a sticker got me a little perturbed so went down and took the forks off the bike and NO sticker just stamped into the metal stearing tube the following BREV Campagnola-Lg-200-(dametersign o with slash through it) 2.54 x 24F.
this is certainly no decal or sticker, its the real deal.
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Originally Posted by tilbury
you suggesting it is a sticker got me a little perturbed so went down and took the forks off the bike and NO sticker just stamped into the metal stearing tube the following BREV Campagnola-Lg-200-(dametersign o with slash through it) 2.54 x 24F.
this is certainly no decal or sticker, its the real deal.
You're not reading those numbers off a bearing race pressed on the fork crown by any chance??

If it is indeed on the steering tube, that is very unusual......AFAIK, Campagnolo never made their own tubesets, just the forged items like DOs.......but who knows, weirder things have been dug up out there....

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Originally Posted by tilbury
you suggesting it is a sticker got me a little perturbed so went down and took the forks off the bike and NO sticker just stamped into the metal stearing tube the following BREV Campagnola-Lg-200-(dametersign o with slash through it) 2.54 x 24F.
this is certainly no decal or sticker, its the real deal.
Sounds like you are talking about the headset. Post a picture.
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Originally Posted by tilbury
you suggesting it is a sticker got me a little perturbed so went down and took the forks off the bike and NO sticker just stamped into the metal stearing tube the following BREV Campagnola-Lg-200-(dametersign o with slash through it) 2.54 x 24F.
this is certainly no decal or sticker, its the real deal.
Campagnolo made a steering column for use with their headsets, They also made dropouts to go with their derailleurs and hubs, bosses for their shifters and some other minor frame fittings. However they did not make tubesets, frames or forks. Only the steering column on your fork (and possibly the dropouts) are Campagnolo.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
Campy corkscrews are better because they use the finest bearings (ones that no one else can buy) and you can rebuild them. When you use it, it will be tight at first because of the close tolerances, but it will get better over time.
True. They wear in, as your liver wears out.
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T-MAR thank you for the info. Dropouts are campagnola came with the bike. My brother has the same bike and four other freinds. We all bought them when we worked at International Cycles warehouse in Concord Ont. Nice summer job. Are they rare?
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I was in a bike shop that has a Cannondale for sale, an older model that has a Campagnolo decal on it, on the top tube, large and very visible. The decal is definitely under the clear coat of the OEM paint. The bike had Campy components front to rear, including Ypsilon rims on Campy hubs. They've since been replaced for the most part with 600 tricolor in places. It's clearly a Cannondale, but the decal is clearly under the OEM clear coat. Was it perhaps a promotional thing?
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Campagnolo made a steering column for use with their headsets, They also made dropouts to go with their derailleurs and hubs, bosses for their shifters and some other minor frame fittings. However they did not make tubesets, frames or forks. Only the steering column on your fork (and possibly the dropouts) are Campagnolo.
There's something new that I learned....but why would Campagnolo bother with making steering tubes and not go all they way with a full tubeset??? Only thing they make that touches the steering tube would be the top race and lock nuts, but I have not heard that there were problems with other tube manufacturer's not coming up to Campagnolo required tolerances. Like I said, the weirdest things can still be dug up out there...
A frameset with a Campy steerer tube is still NOT a "Campagnolo" frameset. It just has Campagnolo parts in it.

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Originally Posted by tilbury
T-MAR thank you for the info. Dropouts are campagnola came with the bike. My brother has the same bike and four other freinds. We all bought them when we worked at International Cycles warehouse in Concord Ont. Nice summer job. Are they rare?
Oh, that makes sense. Favorit were quite rare, except during the early 1970s, in the Toronto region (and I imagine eastern Europe). Favorit was "the bargin" in a Campagnolo Nuovo Record equipped bicycle during the early 1970s boom. BTW, I recall it being International Bicycle Company (IBC) as opposed to International Cycles. I recall them having an International house brand with the bicycles being made by Garlatti in Italy and Bridgestone in Japan, possibly others. Is this the same company, or am I confusing two different companies?
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I was in a bike shop that has a Cannondale for sale, an older model that has a Campagnolo decal on it, on the top tube, large and very visible. The decal is definitely under the clear coat of the OEM paint. The bike had Campy components front to rear, including Ypsilon rims on Campy hubs. They've since been replaced for the most part with 600 tricolor in places. It's clearly a Cannondale, but the decal is clearly under the OEM clear coat. Was it perhaps a promotional thing?
Athena components, blue and White with Camapgnolo logo on the lower, seat tube? If so, that's a circa 1990 SR900.
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I've been thinking of getting Campagnola tattooed on my whatzit.
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I've been thinking of getting Campagnoli tattooed on my whatzit.
Hmm.
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The Campagnolo steerer tube as part of the Record headsets in Catalog 16.

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It only takes one letter, man.
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
Hmm.
...but I didn't want them to misspell it.
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It only takes one letter, man.
Yes, and it'd be permanant!
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T-MAR Always known it as Internationl Cycle 30+YEARS ago hard to remeber, I do remember they did sell a house brand. Will post picture of my bike later today.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Oh, that makes sense. Favorit were quite rare, except during the early 1970s, in the Toronto region (and I imagine eastern Europe).
If you include entry level racers they likely sold throughout Europe. At least a school chum of mine had an entry level Favorit in the early 80's.
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Originally Posted by Chombi
There's something new that I learned....but why would Campagnolo bother with making steering tubes and not go all they way with a full tubeset??? Only thing they make that touches the steering tube would be the top race and lock nuts, but I have not heard that there were problems with other tube manufacturer's not coming up to Campagnolo required tolerances. Like I said, the weirdest things can still be dug up out there...
A frameset with a Campy steerer tube is still NOT a "Campagnolo" frameset. It just has Campagnolo parts in it.

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Only God and Tullio know (and that's not to infer they're the same person). Seriously, it appears to have been related to the Italian threading, as the steerer did not come in any other thread standards. The steerer was offered during the boom, when Reynolds was considered the best tubeset by North Americans. Many Italian builders used Reynolds on their top frames to ensure penetration of the profitable North American market, but Reynolds steerers were only offered in French and English threading at the time, so I assume it was to allow Italian builders the option of using Reynolds or other non-Italian tubesets, without the extra expense of buying non-threaded columns and having to thread them (those Campagnolo dies aren't cheap).
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That makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the clarification T-Mar!


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