New Law in France About Modifying e-Bikes
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New Law in France About Modifying e-Bikes
France just passed a law concerning the derestricting of e-bikes. Now punishable by a fine up to $30,000 euros (about $35,000) and one year (individual) or two years (company) in jail.
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This is happening in San Francisco. Guys putting together or buying commercial bikes and scooters capable of 100 mph.
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People that do that will earn a Darwin Award. It really is stupid!
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Very good point. The other problem is that you can't fix stupid.
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My sense is that France is mostly concerned about owners tweaking to allow speeds over the legal limit (15 mph) to the higher limit allowed in the US (28 mph), not to control wacko hot-rodders. Imposing such an onerous fine is crazy. Why don't they just cite cyclists riding imprudently.
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My sense is that France is mostly concerned about owners tweaking to allow speeds over the legal limit (15 mph) to the higher limit allowed in the US (28 mph), not to control wacko hot-rodders. Imposing such an onerous fine is crazy. Why don't they just cite cyclists riding imprudently.
The law of the land is 25 kph, if they want faster then they register it as a motorcycle.
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Because there have already been a number of deaths attributed to ebikes going far in excess of the speed limit. It's not so much riding on the road, but these adrenaline freaks ride on bike paths, trails and other paths where pedestrian traffic is a constantly present.
The law of the land is 25 kph, if they want faster then they register it as a motorcycle.
The law of the land is 25 kph, if they want faster then they register it as a motorcycle.
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Before law enforcement can do anything to those that are dangerous outlaw riders there has to be a law making that behavior illegal. The problem always is in the interpretation of that law by local law enforcement. The enforcement can be logical and appropriate or it can be motivated by other biases that make it a problem.
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It's a bit crazy, I'm sure motorists kill in much greater numbers, and nothing is done about them
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The bikes are checked to some degree in various countries, but not the US. Bicycles are designed to be safe for a certain power level and speed; otherwise there's nothing wrong with mopeds or motorcycles. The positive aspect is that motorcycles and mopeds are licensed and insured in the US AFAIK so the riders are tested and have coverage.
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So, I understand that these tricked bikes need to hurt or kill someone first before they can be punished. Is that what you're saying?
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I read it to say that they should be punished if they are caught speeding, but if you want to escalate it all the way to killing people, I think that's on you
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No, that is not what I am saying. Sorry you don't understand the concept of controlling bad behavior directly. It's not the bikes that hurt or kill, it's those who ride them in a dangerous manner.
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He's not defending those who hot rod their e-bikes for the express purpose of hotdogging it through a city like an idiot.
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I see nothing wrong with that
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I'm actually surprised that the e-bikes in the US are still not requiring insurance/licensing. In the late 70s mo-peds were similarly regulated as e-bike are today: they could use bike lanes, no license or insurance required, and their speed was limited to about 30 mph (a 50cc engine). With the price of gas relatively high at the time--they were very popular with young people (I had a Vespa). Then insurance and licensing requirements were put into place and this drove them to near extinction within a couple of years. All it will take IMO, is a spate of incidents involving e-bikes for similar regulations to be enacted. Where will this segment of the bike industry be then?
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ebikes can't go that fast.
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New Law in France About Modifying e-Bikes
Ebikes and small scooters are now capable of 100 mph. It should be illegal to sell them but the loophole is they're for off road use. Another problem is they look like the legal device.You can see ads for them on this forum.
https://minimotorsusa.com/products/d...0aApM9EALw_wcB This one has a 50 mph specification. Limited to 15 mph but has a speed limiting wire that is not to be tampered with...wink, wink.
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https://minimotorsusa.com/products/d...0aApM9EALw_wcB This one has a 50 mph specification. Limited to 15 mph but has a speed limiting wire that is not to be tampered with...wink, wink.
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seems so obvious to limit car speeds, but no, they can go as fast as the carmakers want.
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It was sarcasm. The idea that ebike riders that go over 15mph should be punished severely, yet non-powered bikes can go as fast as they want with maybe a small fine.
fine up to $30,000 euros (about $35,000) and one year (individual) or two years (company) in jail.
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