smd4

Might have been a way to keep it from being passed off as original finish.

repechage

fragile pride, fragile ego, hoping for free advertising.

Robvolz 

Madge thinks it’s BS that it’s under the clear coat.

smd4

From the company that was the premier restorer, BITD?

If it wasn't to mark it as a repaint, it's probably just like any other artist--we always sign our work.

Robvolz 

different take: my dad used to custom order his cars. Once a car was delivered with the dealers name, riveted to the back of the body.

He refused to take delivery unless they either remove the plate, fill the holes and repainted, or paid him $500 for advertising for them.

smd4

Do you feel the same way about advertising for Cinelli?

repechage

that was a thing in the 1960’s especially in states that did not allow license plate frames.
locally Lou Ehler’s Cadillac placed a nameplate on the trunk lid. They tried to push it as a upscale thing.
the company that produced them? GM Nameplate.

repechage

they were widely known and did advertise in bike magazines for a time.
I don’t think of them as premier, but no matter, they are long gone.

iab

Not that I have a lot of experience, but I don't know of another paint shop that did/does the same. And how are they premiere over the other shops?

Sedgemop 

Not mine, but I'm thinking about it. A '72 SC for sale by the Marin Museum of Cycling. Has a couple issues, (sweaty top tube, cracked crank arm), but is currently going for $1750. I'm pretty sure I'll have one of these one day, don't know if it's this particular one, though.

repechage

exchanged wheels but probably below market, uncommon color. Too big for me.

Sedgemop 

Yeah, ad copy indicates it is a custom build. Comes with a set of clinchers too. This is my size. Don't see earlier SC's in my size too often. It's tempting.

mpetry912 

I'd bet those are wheels built by Spence Wolf, Phil hubs, Superchamp rims, T&S rear are the tells. That bike is right in the borderline of refinish or leave original.

Here is a Cinelli currently in my care. Has about 10 miles from new. Hung in the office of it's former (original) owner for 40 years after he rode it twice.

at some point I'll pull it out and take some better pictures. Original except for a set of wheels Spence built for me, and a set of Jim Merz titanium crank bolts. Display only. S/N 4719

/markp

Sedgemop 

You're right about the wheels. This bike has been posted a couple times on the Forum with the full ad, so I didn't post it here. Here's a bit from the ad about the wheels:

This bike was built for Tim Wilson by Spence Wolf, dean of NorCal custom builds. Spence also built the wheels.
Hubs: Phil Wood, 36/36 hole, 100/120mm, about first year of production, with chrome-plated barrels
Rims: Super Champion Record du Monde

mpetry912 

Joe Bell's shop puts a "JB" logo on most of their work. Their work is absolutely stunning. Best of the best.

However not accepting new commissions at this time

/markp

repechage

I focused on the rims, indeed possible Spence work.
‘Yellow Rolls Royce comes to mind regarding the yellow example.

smd4

If you don’t know of any other shops that did the same, yet you know about Cycleart, then you’ve answered your own question.

iab

Good marketing does not necessarily mean good quality. Or are you saying the likes of Chris Kvale and Jeff Bock are lacking?

iab

Seems to be a socal thing.

bibliobob

That's gorgeous. That's the fourth Spence Cinelli that I've seen that doesn't have the down tube decal. It seems he sometimes ordered them that way, especially on the ones with a full chrome fork and the fully chrome treat triangle.

smd4

Who?

repechage

not only, Richard Sachs uses Joe and has for a long time. And that requires shipping across the nation, once each way.

repechage

was Cyclart.

smd4

My God! You’re right! We’ll have to start calling you “Eagle Eye!”

I’ll be sure to make that very important edit so no one will be confused about who I was referring to.

elqsigue

a company with good design