big john

I try to avoid such self destructive behavior. Plus, I break enough wheels already.
As I posted earlier, I wouldn't rule out a recumbent if I was forced into one by some physical issue. Don't see any other reason to get one. More likely I would get an electric road bike.

Trsnrtr

I rode bents for 10 years due to surgery that made uprights uncomfortable. I had low racers and really enjoyed the speed but I live in flat corn country so there isn’t much climbing.

Now, I’m just one of those misinformed upright riders that would be on a bent if I only knew better.

big john

I remembered that you had ridden them. Do you still have one? I think I've seen a picture of you on one, actually.

Trsnrtr

No, as I got older, I started getting more and more fearful on the road. The ones that I had were pretty low, not the lowest out there, but low.

LarrySellerz

The premise of this thread is ragging on a clueless rider who spent a bunch of money on a bike and kit but didnt even have the experience/brain to bring a spare tube. The amount of money put into the hobby contrasts with the rider forgetting a basic item.

Ive looked into getting a recumbent and all of the nicer ones were really expensive. You can get a really nice DF bike for a fraction of the cost of a recumbent, and the average bf bike is cheaper than the average recumbent.

rsbob 

Your assumption is that the rider was clueless not purposeful in not bringing a tube. I have known a couple of people who never carry tools or tubes and they are highly experienced cyclists. I don’t necessarily agree with them but respect their decision. Assumptions are never a good thing unless backed up by an overwhelming amount of evidence, which you ain’t got.

Maelochs

If we go by the actual text conversation, at no point did the rider say he didn't have tubes, tire boots, patch kit, pump ..... any of that some well-meaning, big-hearted, open-minded cloud-yeller decided that the person lacked all these things, plus the sense to bring them.

By the way, Mr. Trsnrtr---Really nice 'bent.

Same issue as with tadpole trikes---below hood level---but it looks like a ton of fun.

Koyote

Do I spy pockets on the front of the jersey? That would make sense on a 'bent --- I just never knew they made them like that.

tomato coupe

Basic item? You mean like a helmet, a jersey, or one of your brakes?

livedarklions

You're giving the OP too much credit for a coherent premise. He says he offered the tools you'd reasonably expect to carry and he knows the guy said they'd do no good under the circumstances. He actually doesn't know what the guy was carrying. Basically, OP jumped to the conclusion that he didn't have tools because he wanted that to be true to fit his petty little narrative of clueless unthinking privileged "racer boyz".

Trsnrtr

Yes. They're made with side pockets, too.

rydabent

I could see his whole bike. The was not even a small seat bag. He had NOTHING with him in case of a flat or an emergency.

badger1

You sure? Did you have him assume the position and then check his jersey pockets?

tomato coupe

Maybe that "very smooth and aero, and you could just look at it and tell it was very expensive" bike he was riding was a Trek Domane with a storage compartment in the down tube? Did you check that after you checked his jersey pockets?

3alarmer

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...in my version of this story, the rider with the flat from a large hole in the tire was running road tubeless. He was smart enough to know that pulling the tire to insert a boot and tube would be a huge sticky mess, and he just preferred to walk home. I would criticize him for having disc breaks, brifters, and a plastic frame as well. Then I would summarize, in my final sentence, with something about "steel is real".

But in all honesty, I don't think I could get 17 pages out of that troll. Kudos to the OP for that feat.

big john

Should've had him squat and cough.

LarrySellerz

[QUOTE=livedarklions;22627793 He says he offered the tools you'd reasonably expect to carry and he knows the guy said they'd do no good under the circumstances. He actually doesn't know what the guy was carrying. Basically, OP jumped to the conclusion that he didn't have tools because he wanted that to be true to fit his petty little narrative of clueless unthinking privileged "racer boyz".[/QUOTE]

Yes, and im saying juxtoposing that mess with the whole recumbent thing is just bizarre, because I view recumbents as more "elitist" in terms of cost and the "seriousness" of the ride, not that any of it is elitist but nice recumbents are luxury items like a nice CF frame

Eric F 

I ride without a bag of any kind on my bikes, yet I always ride with a tube/tool kit. How could that be??

Koyote

Two words: jersey pockets.

A little advice: at some point, your hole is deep enough, and you can stop digging.

3alarmer

...nicely played, Larry. Pee-wee Herman could not have done it better.

Broctoon

If you’re going to assist another rider, you should be mindful of some potential pitfalls that are not always obvious. I swear the following story is 100% true.

A few years ago my wife and I were riding in Grand Teton National Park (one of the most beautiful places on Planet Earth; this is an objective fact). We had either just pulled into a parking lot or were about to leave, I don’t remember, but our bikes were on the car and we were wearing our riding clothes, so other folks could tell we were cyclists.

A group of three or four nice bike people approached us and asked if we had a pump they could borrow. They’d been using C02 bottles but ran out. A few of these people, including the one who needed some air, were young ladies and were quite very attractive. This honestly didn’t figure into my choice to help them; I would freely offer my pump to ugly people. Of course, I got the pump out of the car and let her use it, then asked if she needed anything else. She said, “no, thanks,” we talked briefly, and then we went our separate ways. End of story. Nothing that could go into a letter to Penthouse.

…Except as soon as they left, Mrs. Broctoon got a little irritated. She didn’t accuse me of allowing my eye to wander, but she openly complained that the girl was trying pretty hard to flirt. I didn’t see it. Maybe she batted her eye lashes and gave a cute smile, playing the damsel in distress a little. It’s not like anything could have come from it--she’s with friends, my wife is there, we’re outside in public. So now I guess I’m supposed to deny someone in need the use of my pump for 60 seconds, to avoid the appearance of responding to sexual advances? Maybe I should have said, “No, I’m sorry. I would like to help you, but you are too pretty. You will have to get air somewhere else.”

Edited to add: No one involved in this interaction was riding a recumbent or a trike. My wife and I were both on upright diamond frames, and so were the strangers we encountered. My father used to own a recumbent, and I rode it once or twice. I am neither proud nor ashamed of this fact.

Steamer

Just chiming in here to say Ryda is not representative of recumbent riders, in general. (Just in case anyone was tempted to think this.)

Since I am here, I will also say I am confused by the recumbent non-sequitur, as well.

Koyote

No comment on the story, but this might become my new sig line:

Broctoon

Recumbent non-sequiturs frequently pop up around here, causing confusion and frustration for many BF members.

tomato coupe

If you had been riding bents, it would have made it into Penthouse Letters.

"The full-kitted vixen ..."