gsteinb

does anyone understand strava? How does one look at a segment and know where the start and finish actually is? There's a few climbs around here that I think my times are pretty solid on compared to the leaders, but I'm not actually sure since a few seconds on either end of it makes a big difference.

hack

I've got a teammate that lives in the city, but is always on the Valley Ride or whatever other evening rides go on down in the Peninsula area. He's a bit more mobile with work though. I think the Roasters Ride is an AM thing, but no nothing else about it.

hack

If you click on a segment (segment search or explore or on your ride) it should bring up a map showing the location of the segment in addition to the best times. I THINK you can view this as a basic map or as an aerial overlay on a road map to give you a better idea of start location relative to landmarks.

edit: pic with strava stuffs attached

TheKillerPenguin

Yeah, I don't bother trying to eyeball unless there's obvious land markers to go off of. There are a few climbs in the gunks that fit that bill along with Bear Mtn.

Ygduf

name some of the climbs and I can link or screenshot for you. if you're actually strava-ing you have to get to speed before the segment and race through the end of it and add a few seconds to be certain

himespau 

That's how I got my one lone KOM, finding a way to get to speed before it started and then just sprinting until I couldn't sprint anymore and then trying not to fall over (and hoping I've gone far enough for the tail end). Somehow I have the top 7-8 times on it even though I don't know exactly where it begins or ends (and I think my next highest placing on a segment is in the 40's or so). As little power as I put out, the only thing I can figure is everyone else doesn't get to speed until it starts.

furiousferret

I use go the satellite view and go off landmarks; often times it'll be 3rd telephone pole up the block, etc.

caloso

This is what I do.

globecanvas

That is how it's done. Zoom way in on satellite view. Also a lot of segments will have stupid start/end points, like ending after a flat section beyond the obvious top of the hill, etc. And random GPS variation can easily push times a few seconds in either direction. There are lots of reasons not to take any of it too seriously.

BTW if you do the Gunks 10000 it's scored off Strava times, so I'll have to lend you a Garmin for the day and make a throwaway account for you...

gsteinb

yeah, that's kinda what I assumed.

For example cadillac mountain in bar harbor maine or Kain road in warwick, NY.

Ygduf

first one looks pretty straight up. https://www.strava.com/segments/659939

kain rd is less so. gotta look at the satellite or street view and try to match that up with the segment: https://www.strava.com/segments/634810

also I feel like both of those are ripe for me to fly to the east coast and sit solidly in 2nd place or so.

globecanvas

Cadillac Mountain KOM... 442w for 13+ minutes, nbd. I hope that guy is gigantic.

ridethecliche

I bought DA shift cables yesterday.

Anyone want to take bets on the odds of my ruining them and going back to the store to just have them do it the second time around? Oy.

mike868y

he's not.

dz_nuzz

Hahaha, Tim A. yeah he isn't a huge guy, probably 170-175 lbs.

Nicest guy in the world, he just grinds you off his wheel.

Grumpy McTrumpy

6.15 w/kg for 13 minutes.

Ygduf

I did 432 for that duration (430 for 15) but I am unfortunately gigantic. (5.3)

Ygduf

he's <160?

globecanvas

162 according to whatever he put in Strava, so that's just over 6 w/kg for 13 minutes.

I know I started it, but it's kind of weird talking about some random guy's weight on the internet...

Ygduf

god only knows if he calibrated his bathroom scale or his powermeter, either!

gsteinb

depending on how you massage the start / finish of that I'd be fourth or fifth. but 12 minutes is crazy fast. all of these climbs seem to have some outlier on them. That guy who has the Kain strava is in other world territory (for a local climb).

gsteinb

oh and my computer got hijacked. I can't get to some sites on my browsers (google in particular). tried safari, firefix AND IE in parallels. damnedest thing. very frustrated.

dz_nuzz

That makes me think that either your hostfile is messed up, or you are experiencing network difficulties. Most likely the latter.

furiousferret

Many climbs are assisted. Three or four guys start it, and they peel off so the last guy gets a good time. Typically its a group ride, but there are people that recruit their buddies to get a KOM.

gsteinb

it seems like my browsers/system go hijacked. other computers I'm having no issue with. I don't know anything about this stuff though.