Cyclist0108

A newer IRD that goes down to 28: IRD Lobo "Adventure" Crankset

Ooops -- sorry, same thing!

I assume it is square taper, but it doesn't say anywhere.

Marcus_Ti

24mm axle with sealed bearing cups and sleeve....that isn't sq taper.

For $330USD it had better not be

Cyclist0108

Excellent.



(I paid more for my square taper White Industries.)

abecrizer

FSA Tempo Adventure

I am interested in the FSA Tempo Adventure crankset, but would prefer something like 39/24 or 42/26. Want to know if I can change the inner ring.

All sites list the inner ring as 80 mm BCD, but the picture shoes 5 arms. I can only fine 80mm 4 arm chain rings.

Does any body have one of these cranksets, is it a 4 arm or a 5 arm? Is it REALLY a special 5 arm 80mm?

Schadenfreuder

I have a FSA Omega (ahem, for sale) BB30 with 46/30 range rings. It is 4 arm 120/90 bcd. The Tempo appears to be 5 arm, and square taper (yuk). Might be a one off model by FSA.

BluesDawg

So much undeserved disdain for square taper bottom brackets. For the most part, you'll only find them on lower end products these days, but they work very well.

Marcus_Ti

The good ones last forever...Catch being, even the good taper BBs and decent cranks lag well behind in stiffness compared to newer 2-piece crank/spindle designs. They're also a hell of a lot heavier.

Cyclist0108

This was my thinking, but when push came to shove, I went for the square taper version of the White Industries crank and bottom bracket (when I found out the hard way the 30mm would not fit with my Di2 wires in there). I've only had it since February, but it has been perfectly fine.

My 1986 Bianchi had a Gippemme. I finally changed it out last year. I don't think I ever maintained it. That's 30 years of malignant neglect. My Shimano Ultegra external 24mm BB was pretty thrashed after 3 years.

B. Carfree

These folks are going to be surprised to find that their stuff is lower end. And, strange enough, their 11-speed crank only comes in 46-30, at least for now.

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/...ed-chainrings/

BluesDawg

That's why I said "for the most part". There are certainly exceptions. My White Industries VBC for one.

TimothyH

I'm considering ordering the Sugino OX901D within the next two weeks.

Has anyone seen them less expensive than $369 USD at Alex's?

https://alexscycle.com/collections/r...-plus-crankset


-Tim-

Planemaker

Seems like the FSA SL-K is about the same price and weighs less. What sold you on this particular model?

TimothyH

The Sugino looks nice and the FSA was not available when I started looking.

I held off ordering the Sugino however, after seeing the review of the FSA at GravelCyclist.com. It would reduce the weight of my bike by a half pound.

The only question is the bottom bracket. My frame is PF30 and I'm using an Enduro Torqtite for Shimano 24 mm spindle. I think I would have to replace this and it was very expensive, close to $150.

The FSA is 30 mm spindle? Is there a Praxis conversion bottom bracket for PF30 frame to fit the FSA SL-K Adventure crank?


-Tim-

trailangel

Just call me old school, but any crank that needs to be put together with a wave washer will not be on my bike.
You should try the Compass crankset. They are light, and the rings are CNC out of 7 series alloy.... which is more than I can say for Stronglight and Sugino and others.. maybe the FSA crank too..... stamped rings.

Marcus_Ti

Does your RDO have a separate routing for Di2 cabling outside the BB shell? I want to say it does...

I thought of the SL-K 30mm...but when I asked Carver they were very skeptical about adequate room for Di2 cabling inside the BB shell, and advised sticking to 24mm cranks with Di2. Of course, mine is a threaded 68mm metal frame.

While taper cranks are classy and their BBs can last decades...they suffer in the stiffness department. A lot, compared to 2-piece cranks.

trailangel

I don't think you can feel a difference in stiffness between one and the other.....
Even if one crank was stiffer, what would that do to you Strava time.....probably nothing.
And who says stiffer is better anyway. I am not on the band wagon for smaller stiffer frames, stiffer components etc... and then you need to add a spring in the handlebar stiff because it's too stiff now....
and don't forget about the extra padding in your diaper shorts because the frame is beating your @ss.

TimothyH

Yes, PF30 with separate routing. Plenty of room. Cables and hoses will not be an issue.

Just need to figure out a bottom bracket for PF30 and the SL-K crank. I would like to avoid press fit and adapters but would rather have something like the Enduro TorqTite (expensive) or the Praxis conversion bottom brackets.
I would not have to change bottom brackets with the Sugino OX901D but dropping a half pound off the bike with the FSA is very appealing.


-Tim-

Planemaker

Just a thought but, is PF as big an issue with a Ti bike as opposed to carbon.

I'm asking because I'm in the same boat at with you with a Ti Litespeed and wanting to the FSA 46/30 crank. I've not had any issues the PF 30 BB so far and I'm far from a small rider.

TimothyH

I don't know about Ti. Even PF30 with carbon is an unknown to me. This is my first carbon bike and I didn't bother with press-fit bearings but used the Torqtite for Shimano instead, just bypassed the issue altogether.

Yeah, I'm about 200 lb. Not sure if that makes a difference but I like the idea of a screw together bottom bracket with replaceable bearings over having to press them into the frame.


-Tim-

Planemaker

My mistake, I thought you had a Ti bike as well.

FWIW - I had PF 30 on my Felt cross bike and never had any issues with it. That being said, I always wanted a BB that could be screwed together so I could replace the BB myself.

Planemaker

I just found this https://www.kogel.cc/products/pf30-3...le-30mm-cranks


Seems like they are moving the bearings more outboard to take advantage of the 386. In addition, they have cross version which will offer more protection for the bearings.


I'm not familiar with the Kogel bearings does anybody have any thoughts?

steinercat

The Rotor 3D30 looks awful nice, and the 46/30 rings are now readily available here in the US.

hhhmmm.....What to do with my WI R30.

deepakvrao

What's wrong with a wave washer? Is that one that looks wavy?

trailangel

The wave washer takes up slop on inferior Bottom Brackets.

babybabe

Anyone know if the Sugino will work with...

a) a 9-speed chain/cassette?
b) a 68 Shimano Octalink bb?

The frame is a Gunnar Crosscheck (steel). Much obliged!