Let me see your cockpit..
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Let me see your cockpit..
Let's see your cockpit!
I wanna get some ideas for my ride I just finished..
I wanna get some ideas for my ride I just finished..
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My Cockpit
Here's mine: This is my Haro 29er that I use for my winter bike. The 7 Inch Split screen LG tablet runs the "Urban Biker" app and an MP3 player through the Bose Soundlink II, which switches over to my cell if a call comes in. I also use it for the weather radar which has helped me navigate around storms (small ones anyway). My phone is in the
MotoZone pouch, which has nice little side pockets for my wallet and such. The dual Miracle mirrors come in very handy, especially in heavy traffic. Lots of lights, a pair of small ones (front and back) that I use as running lights all the time, and larger lights (front and back) for night riding.
MotoZone pouch, which has nice little side pockets for my wallet and such. The dual Miracle mirrors come in very handy, especially in heavy traffic. Lots of lights, a pair of small ones (front and back) that I use as running lights all the time, and larger lights (front and back) for night riding.
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I'd like to hear your impression about the Jones H-bar.
Usually, hands run parallel (on drop down handlebars) or perpendicular (when on the inner portion of butterfly, or on the top of drop down). On the Jones, they'd be at 40 degrees or so. It looks like a more natural position, but it may not matter given the way hands adapt to a variety of positions.
Do they feel more comfortable? Do they require a different stem length?
Usually, hands run parallel (on drop down handlebars) or perpendicular (when on the inner portion of butterfly, or on the top of drop down). On the Jones, they'd be at 40 degrees or so. It looks like a more natural position, but it may not matter given the way hands adapt to a variety of positions.
Do they feel more comfortable? Do they require a different stem length?
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I'd like to hear your impression about the Jones H-bar.
Usually, hands run parallel (on drop down handlebars) or perpendicular (when on the inner portion of butterfly, or on the top of drop down). On the Jones, they'd be at 40 degrees or so. It looks like a more natural position, but it may not matter given the way hands adapt to a variety of positions.
Do they feel more comfortable? Do they require a different stem length?
Usually, hands run parallel (on drop down handlebars) or perpendicular (when on the inner portion of butterfly, or on the top of drop down). On the Jones, they'd be at 40 degrees or so. It looks like a more natural position, but it may not matter given the way hands adapt to a variety of positions.
Do they feel more comfortable? Do they require a different stem length?
You do not need any special stem length, but your bike fit is very important for your comfort - which goes without saying - but I found that my comfort with the Jones bars was seriously impacted with the rest of my bike fit. Getting the right height is important with these bars. You don't want to have them too low so that your hands are supporting the weight of your torso, and you do not want them so high that all of your weight is on your bottom either. Basic stuff really, but super important to the Jones for some reason.
I like the 710mm width, and my wife likes the 660. One of the reasons I prefer the 710 is that I like to use the extra-long ESI chunky grips. These grips are nice and soft, yet you get a firm grip. The grips made for the 710mm bars are nice and long and I find that feature nice because I can shift my hands around and I really do not feel the need for other hand positions, although I subconsciously shift hand positions anyway.
The "loop" part is nice, but I don't feel the need to use it for hand-holds much. When I do, its fine enough for a brief rest.
Jones now offers a Loop H-Bar with some rise to it. I'm going to get one and put it on my new Troll build and tell you how it is. The flat Loop on my ECR is nice, but I wish it was 20mm higher. Simply changing the stem out with fix that, but its always nice to have some handlebar rise to work with when you're dialing in your proper fit.
For what its worth, I think that it may be prudent to check out the Surly Moloko bars. Surly used to offer the Jones bars on a couple of their models, but have dropped the Jones bars in favor of their own "Moloko" bar. Now this is purely conjecture on my part, but I think it would be easy to believe that Surly developed the Moloko to compete with the Loop bars. Discontinue usage of the Loop, manufacture and use the Moloko, all the while cutting costs and increasing profit. Easy to assume, right? Perhaps then it would also be easy to imagine that the clever folks at Surly thought they could do better? That's why I say that I owe it to myself to try a moloko bar.
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Sorry not sure that helps much.
As to stem length I went with the length required to get my ideal bike fit. It wouldn't have been different I don't think had I gone with a standard MTB bar.
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Those of you with bright lights mounted up on the bars - have you ridden toward others on the path with their lights mounted up high like that? Absolutely blinding...
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A few upgrades that have worked great so far...
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For touring, I keep it nice and minimal
From 2003
1000 miles 3 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
to 2010
IMGP1727 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
To 2015
2015-05-21 12.55.21 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
A wired computer without a whole lot of other gewgaws that need charging is all I need.
I'm a bit more elaborate for commuting
DSCN0308 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
but that's only because I need lights regularly.
I have obtained a GPS bike computer but I doubt that I'll be using it for tours. It just requires too much care and feeding. A simple wired computer will last for years on a single button battery. If I want to track my route, I can use my phone which already needs a lot of feeding.
From 2003
1000 miles 3 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
to 2010
IMGP1727 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
To 2015
2015-05-21 12.55.21 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
A wired computer without a whole lot of other gewgaws that need charging is all I need.
I'm a bit more elaborate for commuting
DSCN0308 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
but that's only because I need lights regularly.
I have obtained a GPS bike computer but I doubt that I'll be using it for tours. It just requires too much care and feeding. A simple wired computer will last for years on a single button battery. If I want to track my route, I can use my phone which already needs a lot of feeding.
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Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Old School…When It Wasn’t Ancient bikepacking
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
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Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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'Don't ride paths very much, especially at night. My headlights are for the cars, the potholes & the deer. I think if you avoid using the brightest settings that helps. The outer 2 of my 3 front lights are focused downwards towards the ground only about 10 feet out and a little to each side, so I can see the potholes, rocks, ice, etc. The middle light, which I keep on lower settings, is the only one focused higher and farther out, not just to see but to be seen by oncoming cars.
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On the road, it doesn't really matter.
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Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
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Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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I took the photo because of the temperature, but this is the setup that I was using in HK, Macau, and Vietnam trip early this year. I need a gimbal that go on the Gopro mount, but I haven't found one yet.
Other than that, I'm pretty happy with my space.
EDIT: The phone case that I have on the bike is now gone. Bought it on my tour in Thailand, but it couldn't handle the abuse from the last tour.
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Keepin' it real with just a light, computer and cue sheet clip.
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Aiming and beam pattern probably account for glare much more than mounting location anyway.