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Old 10-25-08, 12:44 PM
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WH-7850-CL-Dura Ace wheels - opinions?

Thinking about these wheels for my Cervelo's training hoops.

Opinions? Anybody have experience with these?
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Shimano makes very good wheels.
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Originally Posted by BananaTugger
Shimano makes very good wheels.
i look forward to psimet's rebuttal.
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Originally Posted by BananaTugger
Shimano makes very good wheels.
Where the F is the informative and technical detail-driven tirade I rely upon you for BT?

It's because these wheels aren't really out there too much yet and you can't poach it off the Internet, isn't it kid?
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Originally Posted by botto
i look forward to psimet's rebuttal.
The cheap ones don't count. They aren't touched up by a human like the Ultegra and Dura-Ace level wheels are.
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Originally Posted by BananaTugger
The cheap ones don't count. They aren't touched up by a human like the Ultegra and Dura-Ace level wheels are.
squirm. squirm.
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You guys don't know jack **** about these friggin wheels do you?

This place is pathetic. And you call yourselves bike weenies.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Where the F is the informative and technical detail-driven tirade I rely upon you for BT?

It's because these wheels aren't really out there too much yet and you can't poach it off the Internet, isn't it kid?
Sure they are.

Three things make them great:

Hubs, build quality and strength. Shimano uses some wicked spokes with a lot of tension. The hubs use the same hard-to-kill bearings as the usual Dura-Ace hub. They are built by a person who knows what they are doing, because they have extremely even spoke tension are never more than a few tenths of a millimetre out of true or round when you pull them out of the box.

They are also very aero for a low profile wheel, but since you plan on training on them, that doesn't matter.
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i'm hoping to get a set on the cheap since they are on recall for an easily fixable issue:
https://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09022.html
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I realize different people can afford different things, but why spend $1200 on a set of training wheels? *****, but yourself another PT hub and get that built into something so you don't have to use the Zipp if you want power numbers.
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I realize different people can afford different things, but why spend $1200 on a set of training wheels? *****, add $800 and buy yourself the SRAM SRM crank at Competitive Cyclist.
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I have the 7801SL. I like the DA hubs a lot, but have no experience with the 7850 rims.

BTW, Pcad, you can usually find 7801sl's on ebay or Craigslist for less than $400. As someone else mentioned, the 7850s, while cool, are a bit expensive for a training wheel.
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dud0rz

there is an advisory/recall out on the 7850 wheels, the spoke plugs are apparently not so hot and give a greater chance of the spokes puncturing the tube (or even worse the tubie)

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Originally Posted by botto
fixed.
I can't wait to get my new toy this week!
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Originally Posted by BananaTugger
Shimano makes very good wheels.
Last time I asked about these wheels, you summarily dismissed them. Do you have new information, or are you just experimenting?

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It says right in the ad "superb wheel at any cost". What more do you want?
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Why don't you buy some Ultegra/Open Pros for training wheels and spend the extra $'s on something else?

Pay no attention if your racing goals this coming season are to win/place well in training rides.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
You guys don't know jack **** about these friggin wheels do you?

This place is pathetic. And you call yourselves bike weenies.
For someone who rides 100,000 miles a year, a 32 hole 3x build will last much longer than those fancy low spoke jobs. Just ask waterrockets, that guy puts out almost as many watts as you do miles and gets over 20,000 miles to a set.

I'd recommend dura ace hubs (because you love shimano) and velocity aerohead rims, 32 hole rear 2x and 28 up front radial. The off-center rear aerohead is builds an extremely durable wheel and they don't have the boxy look of kinlins. Plus, you have many color options for the self hating OCP side of your twisted personality.

Save the fancy stuff for race day and beat the hell out of your training wheels. If you ever feel inclined, you can even true them yourself with normal tools.
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I bloody love my WH 7850 C24 CL wheels, not had them long but they ooze shimano loveliness.
They will be great with my new 7900 I'm getting as a reward to myself for passing my Inspector's exams
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Originally Posted by soma5
Last time I asked about these wheels, you summarily dismissed them. Do you have new information, or are you just experimenting?

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Asked about what wheels?
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Originally Posted by BananaTugger
Asked about what wheels?
Please note original topic header.
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Spare me the 'go with mavic open pros' rants.
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Pcad, get the shimanos. You'll be amazed at the quality for the price. The ride is buttery smooth, quick accelerating, the hubs run beautifully and are mega quiet.

They look the tops too!

There were supposed issues with punctures in the early run which has been remedied.

You won't regret it!
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Originally Posted by soma5
Please note original topic header.
And then?

Give me a quoted post or something.
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BT, where's your obligatory Open Pro rant?
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